ᐅ Does the electrical system need to be updated? (Condominium, 1960s)

Created on: 20 Feb 2024 09:34
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TorstenKandt
Hello everyone,

I am considering buying a condominium. The apartment building (about 20-30 units) was built in the 1960s. I’m wondering if it would be advisable to upgrade the electrical system. Unfortunately, the owners don’t know anything about its current condition. I’m attaching photos of the fuse box and an outlet.

What is your opinion? Should the electrical system be replaced, or is it not necessary? We plan to renovate anyway.

Best regards,
Torsten
Old fuse box with rotary knob, multiple fuses, and dusty casing.

White double socket panel with dirty contacts; dust and a loose part nearby.
Winniefred22 Feb 2024 11:13
TorstenKandt schrieb:

Yes? I would have expected well under 10,000 euros.

Get some concrete quotes, you’ll see. In 2017, we paid about 11,000 euros for 88 m² (950 sq ft) of living space with a basic finish from the cheapest provider. They only offered that price because the apprentice did almost all the work. Sure, you can save a bit here and there by doing your own chasing (cutting channels for cables or pipes), but it doesn’t make a huge difference. It just costs money.
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TorstenKandt
22 Feb 2024 13:40
Okay, thanks, I will get concrete quotes.
Winniefred25 Feb 2024 14:26
Zubi123 schrieb:

For a new subdistribution board and a few new cables+outlets?!
How do you arrive at such a high amount?

Because with a condition like that, you should just do everything at once. Partial replacement doesn’t make sense. The place is completely run down anyway, so everything needs to be redone. In other threads, there are several pictures that support this impression.
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BobRoss
25 Feb 2024 20:59
@TorstenKandt When partially expanding or modifying the electrical installation, it can quickly happen that the "grandfathering" of the existing electrical system is voided, and therefore the entire electrical installation *must* be brought up to current technical standards (RCDs etc. – which is always advisable). For this reason, there are basically only two sensible options: either make no changes at all or do a complete new installation.
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xMisterDx
26 Feb 2024 01:16
First of all, the person operating a device whose Schuko plug shows exposed wires—meaning there is no strain relief of any kind—should definitely be warned.

Generally, existing installations lose their grandfather protection if the system is expanded.

Whether you can do the chasing yourself depends on the electrician. If they say they will do it or not at all, then that’s how it is. 😉