ᐅ Convert solar thermal system for hot water to photovoltaic system?

Created on: 30 May 2023 15:35
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hanghaus2023
Hello forum members,

I currently have a solar thermal system on the roof that heats water when the sun is shining, designed for six people.

In a few weeks, a photovoltaic system (11.3 kWp) will be installed. The solar thermal system is over 20 years old and will be removed. In the future, the photovoltaic system will also be used for water heating.

A 300-liter (79-gallon) water tank is already in place. It is equipped for the solar thermal system.

My question is: how can the water tank be modified so that the photovoltaic system takes over the function of the solar thermal system?

In my opinion, a controller and an electric heating element are required for this.

Thank you very much for your help.

Best regards from hanghaus2023
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KarstenausNRW
31 May 2023 10:00
Ytong2023 schrieb:

300 liters (79 gallons) is completely oversized for 6 people and clearly a waste of money.

If the people don’t shower for hours, half that amount is more than enough.
LOL – rarely have I seen such unrealistic nonsense. Regards. 150 liters (40 gallons) for six people – that’s only 25 liters (6.6 gallons) of shower water per person. That only works if you shower cold, or if you ignore the 125 liters (33 gallons) used by the bathtub.
A 10-minute shower uses about 120–150 liters (32–40 gallons) of water. At normal temperature, 150 liters (40 gallons) means about three minutes of showering per person.

When my three girls shower after a day at the stable and wash their long hair, the temperature in the 300-liter (79-gallon) tank drops from 52°C (126°F) to just above 30°C (86°F). After that, the parents can only shower lukewarm. For a family, 150 liters (40 gallons) without a bathtub is not practical in real life. With a bathtub, even less so—unless you set fixed shower times to allow the hot water tank to reheat.
Tolentino31 May 2023 10:05
However, it also does not heat up to normal temperatures (70°C (158°F)).
Mycraft31 May 2023 10:18
@hanghaus2023

As already mentioned, you basically have two options: an electric heating element or a heat pump.

With the control system, you need to check how your gas boiler manages this and then add the necessary components or remove any that are no longer needed.
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hanghaus2023
31 May 2023 10:21
I would install a 3 kW heating element. Is that sufficient to heat the water in the 300 l (79 gallons) tank to 70°C (158°F) during summer? In winter, heating will be done with gas as usual when there is not enough electricity from the photovoltaic system.
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hanghaus2023
31 May 2023 10:36
The gas boiler is programmable, and the hot water is controlled separately, as usual in combination with the solar system. For the electric heating element, I only need a controller that, for example, switches off at 70°C (158°F). What is the ideal temperature?

Regarding the sizing of the 300 liters (79 gallons), we have always managed well with it. Only very rarely did we have to take lukewarm showers (when the kids washed their long hair). This was with a 60°C (140°F) setting. The bathtub use was only by arrangement.

I was also recommended a Shelly device for the control. Does anyone have experience with it?
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hanghaus2023
17 Sep 2023 18:53
I have now installed the solar collectors in the garden. I will connect them soon. Now I just need to find a tradesperson to install the wiring.