ᐅ BBQ – Construction-Related Quality Control

Created on: 29 Mar 2023 22:43
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Gregor_K
Hello everyone,

You probably can’t make this decision for me, but I still want to ask and hear your opinions. I want to emphasize that this is not about the additional costs involved with hiring a building inspector / construction expert!

We have signed a planning contract with a local general contractor and have started selecting the fittings for the kitchen and bathroom. The building permit / planning permission has been approved, and the general contractor has asked if we are ready to sign the construction contract. I have postponed this for now, as we are still waiting for the financing agreement from the bank. Our relationship with the general contractor is very good, and they are helping us in every way. The general contractor’s standard package is good and they only use quality materials. The contractor is well-known in the region, highly praised, and honestly has a reputation to uphold if mistakes occur. The contractor has its own construction team that handles the shell construction and roof work. For the remaining trades, the same local specialist companies are always hired.

So I’m wondering whether it’s really necessary for us to have a building inspector / construction expert involved. For a large homebuilding chain, I wouldn’t hesitate to hire one, but since this is a local company and they work only with local subcontractors, I have my doubts.

What do you think?
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Gregor_K
31 Mar 2023 20:59
Nida35a schrieb:

I don’t know,
these are all points for the contract review,
of course before signing


I have a contract review document from the Homeowners’ Protection Association here, including a suitable construction contract. I would first use that as a guideline and apply it to my own building contract. If there are things I don’t understand or consider unfavorable for the consumer, I will have the contract reviewed by the Homeowners’ Protection Association.
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WilderSueden
31 Mar 2023 22:41
Gregor_K schrieb:

We obtained a business credit report to assess the risk of bankruptcy. It was rated as very low.

This is acceptable if the future resembles the past. However, that is quite unlikely at the moment. Therefore, I would not put too much weight on it.
11ant1 Apr 2023 21:50
neo-sciliar schrieb:

The home savings contract looks "general"
neo-sciliar schrieb:

And I’m not saying that home savings contracts are "worthless."
Tolentino schrieb:

The only argument against getting a home savings contract,
I have the suspicion that when someone here abbreviates the building expert like the Bavarian textbook publisher / disabled sports club / slipped disc, then an AI (artificial incompetence) auto-replaces it into a building.savings.contract *LOL*
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neo-sciliar
3 Apr 2023 08:04
11ant schrieb:

I have the suspicion that if someone here abbreviates the building expert like the Bavarian schoolbook publisher / disabled sports association / herniated disc, then an AI (artificial incompetence) might automatically change it into a building savings contract by auto-replacement.

Better like this:
A building expert can be very useful to ensure that a construction project is carried out properly and to identify possible defects or damages early on.

Having a building expert present can help avoid construction errors and minimize delays in completing the project. Additionally, a building expert can assist in assessing damage to buildings or identifying construction defects, which can lead to faster and fairer resolution of disputes.

It is true that the costs for a building expert can be high, but they can prove worthwhile in many cases by detecting potential problems early and ultimately helping to reduce expenses for repairs or compensation claims.

Overall, a building expert can be a valuable investment when it comes to completing a construction project safely and successfully.
11ant3 Apr 2023 15:30
neo-sciliar schrieb:

A building surveyor can be very useful to ensure that a construction project is carried out properly and potential defects or damages are identified early on.

Having a building surveyor present can help prevent construction errors and minimize delays in completing the project. Additionally, a building surveyor can assist in assessing damage to buildings or identifying construction defects, which can lead to faster and fairer dispute resolutions.

It is true that the costs for a building surveyor can be high, but in many cases, this expense proves worthwhile by detecting potential issues early and ultimately helping to reduce costs for repairs or compensation claims.

Overall, a building surveyor can be a valuable investment when it comes to completing a construction project safely and successfully.

I am usually not a fan of full quotes, but sometimes a simple "Like" would be too easily overlooked as meaning "That’s exactly how I would have put it." Every house build presents hundreds of opportunities for subcontractors to push back against the general contractor’s pricing pressure and more. Also, several trades are no longer required to be overseen by a licensed master craftsman, and on-site you often find a diverse range of workers, to put it mildly, with minimal training and care. Then there is my usual point that for every corner window and every building element penetration, the time recorded by an independent construction supervisor should be appropriately increased. In the (external, best found by searching the title in quotation marks) article "On Site Managers and … Site Managers," I especially addressed the fact that the "site manager" employed by the general contractor often acts in a biased manner that can be contrary to the interests of the client’s site manager: their job is not primarily to avoid defects themselves, but rather to make defects detectable during the warranty period. Defects that can be reliably hidden under a layer of plaster until the statute of limitations expires therefore remain uncorrected unless the client appoints their own supervisor. This phenomenon is not entirely absent even among general contractors with a relatively good reputation.
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Gregor_K
31 May 2023 22:09
The construction-related quality control told me that the burden of proof during the construction phase lies with the construction company. That is basically correct and I was aware of that. However, the quality control goes as far as always requiring proof of proper execution.

For example:
- Compaction report
- Blower door test

Is it really like that? Can I always expect the construction company to provide the proof? What if they don’t? Then I, as the client, am forced to provide the proof myself and deduct the resulting costs from the final invoice. Of course, this will lead to discussions, which are never pleasant.

PS. You were all right. Never ever without quality control.