ᐅ 8 trees on the property located between the power lines and telephone cables.
Created on: 2 Jun 2020 12:59
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Andreas_79
Hello everyone
We have, or are about to, purchase a plot of land where a few trees are still standing. These are spruces, unfortunately located close to the power line that runs across the property, as well as near the telephone cable that also crosses the land.
So, it will probably be necessary to carry out hazard tree removal. Or is it possible to ask the power company and the telecom provider if they can temporarily disconnect the lines for a certain period to allow the trees to be cut down? Then the neighbor’s house would have to manage without electricity for an hour or two... :-(
I think that could be cheaper than handling the removal of eight trees as hazard trees, right?
This is the middle plot, and although I’m not happy about the cables crossing the property, it’s a small village and all houses are connected like this to power and telephone lines :-(
Best regards
Andreas
We have, or are about to, purchase a plot of land where a few trees are still standing. These are spruces, unfortunately located close to the power line that runs across the property, as well as near the telephone cable that also crosses the land.
So, it will probably be necessary to carry out hazard tree removal. Or is it possible to ask the power company and the telecom provider if they can temporarily disconnect the lines for a certain period to allow the trees to be cut down? Then the neighbor’s house would have to manage without electricity for an hour or two... :-(
I think that could be cheaper than handling the removal of eight trees as hazard trees, right?
This is the middle plot, and although I’m not happy about the cables crossing the property, it’s a small village and all houses are connected like this to power and telephone lines :-(
Best regards
Andreas
Andreas_79 schrieb:
Basically, I also like planting them elsewhere, but first the pipes need to be removed.Don’t say that. It costs a lot of money. We bought a woodland plot within a developed area. There are about 80 trees on it. We must leave around 8 standing. Felling, replacement planting, and setting aside reserves equal to the amount of replacement planting cost about €17,000 to €20,000. The land was very cheap because of that.
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Andreas_793 Jun 2020 10:32Here, the plot is far from being dirt cheap, oops:
But we are still checking whether we can get written permission to remove the trees.
An inquiry with the city revealed the following:
The plot is located within a regulation according to Section 35, Paragraph 6 of the Building Code and is therefore classified as outside the developed area. In principle, the same approval requirements as in an "unplanned inner area" apply here. Additionally, construction projects built outside the developed area are subject to compensation obligations according to Section 14 in conjunction with Section 15 of the Federal Nature Conservation Act. The local lower nature conservation authority of the district is responsible for this.
This made us suspicious at first, but after a phone call with the district office, we were casually told it’s no problem: starting in October, they can simply remove the trees without having to pay compensation.
I will ask my wife to send an email to request written confirmation that this is indeed the case.
We haven’t even started building yet, and new pitfalls keep appearing everywhere.
Best regards
Andreas
But we are still checking whether we can get written permission to remove the trees.
An inquiry with the city revealed the following:
The plot is located within a regulation according to Section 35, Paragraph 6 of the Building Code and is therefore classified as outside the developed area. In principle, the same approval requirements as in an "unplanned inner area" apply here. Additionally, construction projects built outside the developed area are subject to compensation obligations according to Section 14 in conjunction with Section 15 of the Federal Nature Conservation Act. The local lower nature conservation authority of the district is responsible for this.
This made us suspicious at first, but after a phone call with the district office, we were casually told it’s no problem: starting in October, they can simply remove the trees without having to pay compensation.
I will ask my wife to send an email to request written confirmation that this is indeed the case.
We haven’t even started building yet, and new pitfalls keep appearing everywhere.
Best regards
Andreas
Andreas_79 schrieb:
The plot is located within a statute according to Section 35 Paragraph 6 of the Building Code and is therefore classified as outside the developed area. In principle, the same Have you specifically looked into what is stated in this legal paragraph? Are you planning to operate a facility for the energy use of biomass? Construction outside the developed area is generally quite difficult and usually only permitted in connection with agriculture or similar uses. Before purchasing the plot, make sure to clarify exactly what is allowed there and under which precise conditions!
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Andreas_793 Jun 2020 12:34@cschiko, thanks for the tip.
I was really too naive. The story from the real estate agent was just too good to be true. "No problem at all, you can build whatever and however you want here, it’s an outer development area. Everything’s easy!"
I’m going to check with the city to find out exactly what that means. The appointment with the lawyer is on Friday, so they can take a look at it as well.
The houses on the left and right are just normal houses, so no animal farming or anything like that...
I was really too naive. The story from the real estate agent was just too good to be true. "No problem at all, you can build whatever and however you want here, it’s an outer development area. Everything’s easy!"
I’m going to check with the city to find out exactly what that means. The appointment with the lawyer is on Friday, so they can take a look at it as well.
The houses on the left and right are just normal houses, so no animal farming or anything like that...
Basically, the term "outdoor area" actually means the opposite! In most cases, as far as I know, "outdoor area" means "You are not allowed to build here!" Unless, for example, it is related to an agricultural operation or something similar. Even then, it is not always straightforward!
The houses located there are probably older or had a specific connection to the land at some point. But without clarifying this properly, it is better to avoid the property for the time being.
The houses located there are probably older or had a specific connection to the land at some point. But without clarifying this properly, it is better to avoid the property for the time being.
cschiko schrieb:
Basically, the term "outside development area" usually means the exact opposite! In most cases, as far as I know, it means "You are not allowed to build here!" Unless it’s related to something like an agricultural operation. Even then, it can be complicated!
The houses located there are probably older or had some special connection. But unless this is clarified, it’s better to stay away from such plots. Generally, you are right. But here in the south of Berlin, there are also zoning plans for outside development areas. If such plans don’t exist, building is not permitted.
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