ᐅ Home Construction Company with Land Search in North Rhine-Westphalia?

Hello,

I know that Allkauf Haus and Massa Haus in NRW offer houses including suitable plots of land. Are there any other providers with a land service that you would recommend, for example, Viebrockhaus?

Thank you for your feedback.

Haus_Bauer schrieb:

Hello,

I know that Allkauf Haus / Massa Haus in NRW sell houses including suitable plots of land. Are there any other providers with a land service that you can recommend, for example Viebrockhaus?

Thanks for your feedback.

1. Don’t believe every marketing claim you read. Genuine plots of land are rarely available from these providers. You should forget about a successful approach right away. In almost all listings, you will see that no real land is included.
2. Is the "suitable" plot really suitable for you? Or are they just leftover plots that no one else wants?
3. If it’s a complete package, be prepared to pay property transfer tax on both the land and the house. For a €400,000 (approximately $430,000) house in NRW, for example, this can mean additional extra costs of around €26,000 (about $28,000). This is quite steep for a land and house package deal.

Take a look around the forum regarding "land services." The general advice tends to be: steer clear. The common recommendation is: do not sign any contract that commits you to building with a specific manufacturer before you actually have a plot of land. The experience is that most people run into problems with arrangements like "sign here now to build with us, and we'll help you find a plot!" Either because the suggestions for land turn out to be poor and you end up finding something yourself anyway, or it can even lead to penalties if you decide not to build with the manufacturer after all (perhaps the land no longer suits the planned house) or if you simply don’t find a suitable plot within a certain time frame. Maybe there are manufacturers who are better than others in this regard, but definitely be very, very careful with these setups and read everything you sign very thoroughly.

It’s a different matter if it’s a proper developer arrangement. That is, not where the builder helps you search, but where they already own a plot. Often a developer has purchased a larger piece of land, which is then subdivided and developed as a whole neighborhood (this can also be a small area), but sometimes also individual plots. As I said, this is a different setup since the land is already 100 percent secured and it’s not about searching.

Almost all major providers offer a land service or something similar. You need to be careful because some sales representatives sell the house first and only look for the land afterwards. In that case, you would have a signed house contract and be obligated to build or pay damages. I would not sign anything without having a contract for a specific plot of land. Everything else doesn’t make sense, since the zoning plan / building permit may not allow the desired house.

Haus_Bauer schrieb:

I know from Allkauf Haus and Massa Haus in North Rhine-Westphalia (NRW) that these companies sell houses including suitable plots of land.
Are there any other providers who offer a land-and-house package service and come recommended, for example Viebrockhaus?

Just the fact that you mention Viebrockhaus in the same breath as Allkauf Haus and Massa Haus shows how easy a target you are for unscrupulous sales tactics.

ConnyJash schrieb:

I suggest you also take a look at the posts by @11ant on the topics "land service" and "pre-sale".

11ant schrieb:

I recommend searching for "11ant pre-sale" to read about how the bait-and-switch scheme works, which might be attempted here. To summarize: someone looks for a cheap plot of land in the listings, pretends to own it, creates a total price combined with the list price of a very affordable house, and scams a building contract through this so-called "land service" (although they are not a builder at all, but simply a commission agent for a general contractor). Town & Country is indeed an affordable homebuilder, not one to be outright avoided, but unfortunately they are among the providers whose house models are often misused as bait in these scam schemes, along with Heinz von Heiden and other similar associates, whose partner networks are, shall we say, "mixed."

11ant schrieb:

The most recent summary of findings on the keyword "11ant pre-sale" can be found here:
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/hauskauf-vom-Bauträger-benoetigte-unterlagen.27734/#post-261758
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Grundstück-erst-nach-vertrag-beim-Bauträger.30401/#post-311753
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/banale-frage-hauskauf-vom-Bauträger-mit-Grundstück.33358/page-2#post-367253
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/bauen-mit-aesthetik-Haus-GmbH-Bad-salzuflen.33594/#post-372803

Viebrockhaus would be comparable to Gussek Haus (different construction method, same clientele) and builds move-in ready premium solid masonry houses. Allkauf Haus and Massa Haus specialize explicitly in self-build shell homes using timber frame panel construction. So right away, you’ve made a very inaccurate comparison: either you have private insurance / are above both assessment limits / use salary sacrifice car schemes (all combined), and then brands like Viebrockhaus, Gussek Haus, Weberhaus, Bien-Zenker, and similar fit. Or your household budget only works if you mostly buy store-brand products at discount stores (then Allkauf Haus, Massa Haus, etc.). But with self-build shell homes, you need strong DIY skills or you won’t save money. Or, as a builder, you belong to the roughly 80% broad middle class, in which case there are many other, more suitable construction partners.

In any case, you can get help here—the better we get to know the “building family Haus_Bauer,” the more targeted our advice can be. By the way, you will also find tips here under the keyword "11ant Barthel" for your own land search. NRW is large; try narrowing down your preferred region.

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From my experience, there can definitely be sales agents (these are the ones who sell house construction contracts, but they are usually self-employed and work on commission for a (prefabricated) homebuilder) who also work as real estate agents and thus have exclusive access to properties.

However, it is important to be aware that even if you sign a separate purchase agreement for the land, as soon as there is a binding obligation to build with a specific homebuilder, the tax authorities consider it a single contract, which means that the land transfer tax also applies to the house.

We recently had a case here where the tax office came back to the homeowner four (or two?) years later with a claim for the difference.