ᐅ The frequency of tornadoes in Germany is increasing significantly

Yosan schrieb:

Which brings us back to the hospital’s immediate environment.
The pay for a very large number of caregivers in this country is still low, and no, not all of them can just start working in a hospital. Otherwise, the entire huge sector of outpatient care, which is extremely important, would collapse as well.

However, this is somewhat far removed from tornadoes again...

Emergency departments are often attached to hospitals. There, caregivers receive the same base salaries as those working in inpatient care. I haven’t found any statistics on this, but based on my experience, hospital caregivers make up a very large proportion—not a small one, as you claim. You are welcome to provide statistics to convince me otherwise. By the way, there is the IPREG in rehabilitation clinics, similar to the PpSG. So they fall under the same regulations.

Müllerin schrieb:

The best thing for future generations would be if we finally got off our lazy backsides and stopped being selfish.

That sounds quite harsh in a building forum and in the context of a single-family home. I would suggest selling everything and becoming a hermit. But a little selfishness is fine, as long as it doesn’t limit you too much.

Neubau2022 schrieb:

Outpatient care services are often linked to hospitals. There, the caregivers receive the same base salaries as those working inpatient. I haven’t found any statistics on this, but my impression is that nurses make up a very large proportion of hospital staff, not a small one as you claim. However, feel free to provide statistics to convince me otherwise. By the way, rehabilitation clinics have the IPREG, similar to the PpSG. So they are covered by it as well.

I don’t know of any outpatient nursing services here that are affiliated with a hospital. The ones I see operating independently are private companies, and I know their caregivers earn around €16-17 gross per hour.
And where did I say that hospitals make up a small proportion? Please read more carefully.

Offtopic schrieb:

That sounds very sarcastic in a building forum and in the context of a single-family home. I would suggest selling everything and becoming a hermit. But a little selfishness is okay, as long as you don’t restrict yourself too much.

You are absolutely right. @Müllerin too. That’s the dilemma. For humans to be compatible with the ecosystem, we would have to live like early humans—or at least like in the Stone Age. But of course, that is neither desired nor possible. Therefore, everyone should take a moment to consider what they can personally do to help stop or at least slow down climate change and species extinction. Weather events like tornadoes in Germany or extreme flooding are definitely consequences of climate change, although human-made changes to the environment (infrastructure) also play a role here. Unfortunately, there are people who do not want to or cannot recognize these connections. As I mentioned earlier, this topic is naturally unpopular in a housebuilding forum. However, I believe that even with a single-family home and a private garden, it is possible to contribute to climate and biodiversity protection. Others here have already said the same.

Yosan schrieb:

I don’t know a single outpatient care service here that is affiliated with a hospital. The ones I see operating around are independent private companies, where I know the caregivers earn €16-17 gross per hour.
And where did I say that hospitals account for only a small part? Please read more carefully.

€16-17 per hour multiplied by 173.33 hours per month adds up to nearly €3,000 gross. On top of that, there are additional payments for night shifts, weekend shifts, and further training... It’s not uncommon to reach around €4,000 gross. Here, the average salary for a qualified nurse is approximately €3,900 gross.

Hospitals are legally allowed to pay a maximum of the collective pay scale (TVöD), and many do so, with others following suit. They would be unwise not to, since the costs are reimbursed 100% through the nursing budget. In our group, there are six hospitals, and five of them have outpatient clinics. The caregivers receive the same salary structure as nurses in the hospitals. So I can report on about 700 nurses employed with us. We are the largest training provider in Brandenburg with over 300 training positions for health professions, around 100 of which are for specialized nursing staff, and these classes are always full.

Snowy36 schrieb:

Oh man, now here comes the next overused argument: climate change... there have always been flood disasters and storms in Germany as well... back then in NRW, hail completely destroyed all our cars and windows... A few years ago, supposedly the oil ran out, so you were only allowed to drive every other day... I’m not denying that we humans need to take care of nature and the environment, but in 2009 weather maps on the evening news showed 36°C (97°F) marked in green with a shining sun... today the map is shaded red just because it’s once in a while 30°C (86°F)...

Cool, so you basically repeated the A.f.D’s position almost word for word, congrats. You really should take some time to understand the subject. Yes, there were extreme weather events in the past as well. Due to climate change, they just occur much more frequently. That’s a fact! It’s important to be able to distinguish between weather and climate. But of course, it’s much easier to stick to your position so you don’t have to change your behavior... After all, you’ve got your “right” argument. Who cares what science says.