ᐅ Building a house is more complicated than expected – prices keep changing constantly!
Created on: 15 Apr 2022 18:05
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HolzWurm1988
Greetings everyone!
The house construction is actually supposed to start soon. After finding a plot of land here in our rural area, I inquired locally about all the costs related to the land (surveying, water/electricity/telephone connections, notary fees, etc.). I also have the exact notary costs, including the mortgage registration and so on. Some of the costs were significantly higher than I expected, while others were much lower. Overall, the total amount balances out in the end.
Since I basically want to build a log house, I have realized that the contractors are not flexible enough in their scheduling. Of course, I’m glad that all the contractors are busy. However, I also need to ensure that the respective companies can start on my construction site on time. It’s no good if weeks pass between the different phases. Unfortunately, with a log house, I have to manage all the contractors myself. There aren’t many, but they all need to be available at the required time. For this reason, I started looking into prefab houses. Specifically, I’m considering the following models:
Town & Country "Raumwunder 100" and Heinz von Heiden "Bungalow, der Unverbesserliche B760"
When searching online about both companies, you find a mix of positive and negative reviews. I personally believe that most people tend to share negative experiences on the internet, so I don’t include that heavily in my assessment! For both providers, I am increasingly confronted with new prices every few days, which makes me feel like they are trying to pressure me as a customer. So far, I have not signed any purchase contract. However, both houses are viable options for me.
So far, my costs are as follows:
Plot (750 sqm (8,073 sq ft)): 24,500€
Notary fees (including mortgage registration, etc.): 1,945€
Connections/lines/surveying: 6,300€
The Raumwunder 100 costs 210,000€ turnkey, including electric shutters, heat pump but NO underfloor heating.
The Heinz von Heiden bungalow costs 205,000€, including electric shutters, heat pump, and underfloor heating.
Ideally, I would have to commit immediately to Heinz von Heiden. However, my final bank meeting is not until the week after next, and I don’t want to sign any contract before that. I just don’t know if I would still have the option to back out if something goes wrong with the bank. Although, the bank told me in advance that I should have no problem obtaining the credit amount I need. In that case, the price would at least be “safe” for now...
What bothers me most, however, is that the Heinz von Heiden salesperson told me that if I signed the contract this May, I might not be able to build the house until October to December of next year. Building earlier is not possible due to material shortages and the high demand from many people currently wanting to build a house.
As an alternative, I have considered buying an older house again. However, I would have to completely renovate it. Still, I would never reach the current energy standards and would be left with the old water pipes in the house.
What would you do? Do you have any advice for my situation? Are there any alternatives?
I often read that despite a nearly agreed price, sudden price increases occur. Then there’s the fact that materials for continued construction are often missing. This makes me wonder whether it makes sense to take an older house and renovate it step by step, working with the materials currently available.
The house construction is actually supposed to start soon. After finding a plot of land here in our rural area, I inquired locally about all the costs related to the land (surveying, water/electricity/telephone connections, notary fees, etc.). I also have the exact notary costs, including the mortgage registration and so on. Some of the costs were significantly higher than I expected, while others were much lower. Overall, the total amount balances out in the end.
Since I basically want to build a log house, I have realized that the contractors are not flexible enough in their scheduling. Of course, I’m glad that all the contractors are busy. However, I also need to ensure that the respective companies can start on my construction site on time. It’s no good if weeks pass between the different phases. Unfortunately, with a log house, I have to manage all the contractors myself. There aren’t many, but they all need to be available at the required time. For this reason, I started looking into prefab houses. Specifically, I’m considering the following models:
Town & Country "Raumwunder 100" and Heinz von Heiden "Bungalow, der Unverbesserliche B760"
When searching online about both companies, you find a mix of positive and negative reviews. I personally believe that most people tend to share negative experiences on the internet, so I don’t include that heavily in my assessment! For both providers, I am increasingly confronted with new prices every few days, which makes me feel like they are trying to pressure me as a customer. So far, I have not signed any purchase contract. However, both houses are viable options for me.
So far, my costs are as follows:
Plot (750 sqm (8,073 sq ft)): 24,500€
Notary fees (including mortgage registration, etc.): 1,945€
Connections/lines/surveying: 6,300€
The Raumwunder 100 costs 210,000€ turnkey, including electric shutters, heat pump but NO underfloor heating.
The Heinz von Heiden bungalow costs 205,000€, including electric shutters, heat pump, and underfloor heating.
Ideally, I would have to commit immediately to Heinz von Heiden. However, my final bank meeting is not until the week after next, and I don’t want to sign any contract before that. I just don’t know if I would still have the option to back out if something goes wrong with the bank. Although, the bank told me in advance that I should have no problem obtaining the credit amount I need. In that case, the price would at least be “safe” for now...
What bothers me most, however, is that the Heinz von Heiden salesperson told me that if I signed the contract this May, I might not be able to build the house until October to December of next year. Building earlier is not possible due to material shortages and the high demand from many people currently wanting to build a house.
As an alternative, I have considered buying an older house again. However, I would have to completely renovate it. Still, I would never reach the current energy standards and would be left with the old water pipes in the house.
What would you do? Do you have any advice for my situation? Are there any alternatives?
I often read that despite a nearly agreed price, sudden price increases occur. Then there’s the fact that materials for continued construction are often missing. This makes me wonder whether it makes sense to take an older house and renovate it step by step, working with the materials currently available.
HolzWurm1988 schrieb:
I will take some time to read up on this in the forum. It seems there are actually some "hidden" costs involved.Indeed. Sometimes there is a “worm” in it, and occasionally even the “woodworm.” 😉By the way: you can catch mice with bacon, but (usually) not future home builders.
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Allthewayup15 Apr 2022 19:01HolzWurm1988 schrieb:
I have written offers from both manufacturers here. The only things I still need to do are laying tiles, putting up wallpaper, and buying a kitchen.
The respective offers state that the house will be built according to the scope of work description.
- Soil survey
- Foundation slab
- Shell construction with insulation, plaster, etc.
- Windows and doors
- Roof covering including insulation
- Heating system
- Blower door test
- Interior doors
- Interior finishing
- Electrical installations and utility connections
I haven't noticed anything missing. I am also only required to pay after I have received the house keys and the house is fully completed. This is explicitly stated again in the offer.I also once received an offer from two providers that included a price and a scope of work description. Do you know what is usually missing from those? Quality standards, execution alternatives, and additional costs. And do you know what that leads to? Realistically, you should mentally add a “1” in front of the price quoted in your offer to get close to the real cost. I don’t mean this mockingly or sarcastically—most people here, myself included, have had this experience.That’s why I asked if you are familiar with this business model. Low promotional prices paired with impressive-sounding scope of work descriptions that, upon closer examination, barely match your own, often higher, quality expectations. You would do yourself a favor by having a professional or an experienced home builder in your circle of friends explain the situation to you calmly. Nobody here wants to talk you out of anything, but you should listen to the advice and at least consider it.
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HolzWurm198815 Apr 2022 19:08So, I just reread the scope of work in the offer I have, and I couldn’t find anything that suggests I would end up paying more for something I didn’t plan for. Really not! However, it might be that during the construction phase, unexpected issues come up that I didn't anticipate. When it comes to quality, I’m definitely on board with you. I can well imagine that in my case they are talking about brand-name quality, but what does that really mean in the end...
No, I don’t see it as anyone trying to talk me into something bad. On the contrary! I’m grateful for this exchange and of course, I learn a lot from it. I can also imagine buying a used house again and renovating it. That’s what we did with our current house two years ago. It worked out excellently. However, the house is simply too small now. Especially with a child and the fact that I also need an office...
I’m almost starting to think that buying a used house is now the better choice.
No, I don’t see it as anyone trying to talk me into something bad. On the contrary! I’m grateful for this exchange and of course, I learn a lot from it. I can also imagine buying a used house again and renovating it. That’s what we did with our current house two years ago. It worked out excellently. However, the house is simply too small now. Especially with a child and the fact that I also need an office...
I’m almost starting to think that buying a used house is now the better choice.
HolzWurm1988 schrieb:
I only glanced once more at the scope of work in the offer I received and couldn’t find anything that suggests I would end up paying extra for something I hadn’t planned for. Really not! However, it might be that during the construction phase, some unexpected costs come up that I’m not anticipating. But I completely agree with you on the quality. I can well imagine that, in my case, it’s referred to as brand quality—but what does that really mean in the end... You can’t properly read a detailed scope of work in just 15 minutes. Our scope of work document was 24 DIN A4 pages with medium-sized font. Going through it once thoroughly took about 1 hour, once I knew what to look out for. And I reviewed it several times.
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HolzWurm198815 Apr 2022 19:23I have uploaded a screenshot of the construction specification here. Everything is clearly visible. At first glance, I don’t see any major issues. However, I am open to being corrected by others who have already gained experience. As mentioned, I uploaded the images here because I am seriously interested in this matter.
I have left out the remaining pages. They consist of a cover sheet, signatures, and various floor plans. The entire offer comprises 28 pages.






I have left out the remaining pages. They consist of a cover sheet, signatures, and various floor plans. The entire offer comprises 28 pages.