ᐅ Building a house is more complicated than expected – prices keep changing constantly!

Created on: 15 Apr 2022 18:05
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HolzWurm1988
Greetings everyone!

The house construction is actually supposed to start soon. After finding a plot of land here in our rural area, I inquired locally about all the costs related to the land (surveying, water/electricity/telephone connections, notary fees, etc.). I also have the exact notary costs, including the mortgage registration and so on. Some of the costs were significantly higher than I expected, while others were much lower. Overall, the total amount balances out in the end.

Since I basically want to build a log house, I have realized that the contractors are not flexible enough in their scheduling. Of course, I’m glad that all the contractors are busy. However, I also need to ensure that the respective companies can start on my construction site on time. It’s no good if weeks pass between the different phases. Unfortunately, with a log house, I have to manage all the contractors myself. There aren’t many, but they all need to be available at the required time. For this reason, I started looking into prefab houses. Specifically, I’m considering the following models:

Town & Country "Raumwunder 100" and Heinz von Heiden "Bungalow, der Unverbesserliche B760"

When searching online about both companies, you find a mix of positive and negative reviews. I personally believe that most people tend to share negative experiences on the internet, so I don’t include that heavily in my assessment! For both providers, I am increasingly confronted with new prices every few days, which makes me feel like they are trying to pressure me as a customer. So far, I have not signed any purchase contract. However, both houses are viable options for me.

So far, my costs are as follows:

Plot (750 sqm (8,073 sq ft)): 24,500€
Notary fees (including mortgage registration, etc.): 1,945€
Connections/lines/surveying: 6,300€

The Raumwunder 100 costs 210,000€ turnkey, including electric shutters, heat pump but NO underfloor heating.
The Heinz von Heiden bungalow costs 205,000€, including electric shutters, heat pump, and underfloor heating.

Ideally, I would have to commit immediately to Heinz von Heiden. However, my final bank meeting is not until the week after next, and I don’t want to sign any contract before that. I just don’t know if I would still have the option to back out if something goes wrong with the bank. Although, the bank told me in advance that I should have no problem obtaining the credit amount I need. In that case, the price would at least be “safe” for now...

What bothers me most, however, is that the Heinz von Heiden salesperson told me that if I signed the contract this May, I might not be able to build the house until October to December of next year. Building earlier is not possible due to material shortages and the high demand from many people currently wanting to build a house.

As an alternative, I have considered buying an older house again. However, I would have to completely renovate it. Still, I would never reach the current energy standards and would be left with the old water pipes in the house.

What would you do? Do you have any advice for my situation? Are there any alternatives?

I often read that despite a nearly agreed price, sudden price increases occur. Then there’s the fact that materials for continued construction are often missing. This makes me wonder whether it makes sense to take an older house and renovate it step by step, working with the materials currently available.
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HolzWurm1988
17 Apr 2022 23:08
Grobmutant schrieb:

Are you sure? What kind of subsidy would that be for a new build?
Generally, these are available through BAFA, regardless of whether it’s a new build. Do not confuse them with KfW.
11ant17 Apr 2022 23:50
HolzWurm1988 schrieb:

I’m just a bit surprised that some people here say they had no problems with their build and the price was as expected. And then there are others who completely “demonize” everything or only had issues.

This is simply explained by the varying quality of franchisees in every possible way.
HolzWurm1988 schrieb:

Therefore, I don’t think I will be satisfied with the solid construction method.

I mainly believe that you won’t be equally happy with all three providers: your log house builder would offer you a shell construction, while the other two would provide “turnkey” houses, although basic, but built largely on site. Also, none of the three have similarities beyond the quoted price when compared side by side. If you at least compared the same house type—it’s really apples, oranges, and bananas as it stands now. 1. Decide on a suitable house type first, because you will never find a bungalow and a one-and-a-half-story house that fit equally well. 2. Then look for a shell construction general contractor (GC), because this is a completely different approach than an economy turnkey build. 3. Within this one category—not two completely different ones!—get three different providers to submit proposals.

Here https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/einfachste-planung-der-gebaeudehuelle-und-der-geschosse-wo-anfangen.42994/#post-565734 you will find two providers who can professionally support you along the suggested path—both in the SWR broadcast area, but similar service providers probably exist in the north as well (otherwise you can ask both how far such support is possible remotely). Alternatively, you can look for an architect and a shell construction general contractor.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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hanse987
18 Apr 2022 00:08
SoL schrieb:

No, they run on Wi-Fi.

Then you don’t have access points but repeaters in use. It’s good if it works for you. I know several people who complain why the 250 Mbit (250 Mbps) available at the router isn’t accessible throughout the whole house, even though they use fairly decent repeaters. Connection speeds will increase further in the coming years due to fiber optic rollout. That’s why I suggest basic wiring for Wi-Fi access points, which is far from a full network setup like the one I use.
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SoL
18 Apr 2022 00:14
hanse987 schrieb:

Then you don’t have access points but repeaters in use. It’s great if it works well for you. I know quite a few people who complain about why the 250 Mbps coming from the router isn’t available throughout the whole house, even though they have reasonably good repeaters installed. Connection speeds will continue to increase in the coming years due to fiber optic expansion. That’s why I suggest basic wiring for Wi-Fi access points, which is far from a full network setup like the one I’m using.

Yes, correct. Repeaters create a mesh for me.
Don’t get me wrong: if possible, basic wiring makes sense, no question.
The question, as with everything else, is what I can afford.

It’s true that basic wiring is not particularly expensive, but everyone has to draw the line somewhere.
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clausen77
18 Apr 2022 08:35
HolzWurm1988 schrieb:

In general, these are available from BAFA. Independent of new construction. Do not confuse with KfW.

The heat pump subsidy from BAFA has not been available since 01.01.2021.
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HolzWurm1988
18 Apr 2022 08:40
clausen77 schrieb:

The heat pump subsidy from BAFA has not been available since 01.01.2021 (January 1, 2021)…
It will start again on April 20.