ᐅ Combining the development plan with your ideas – Brainstorming
Created on: 16 Apr 2020 23:04
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Stefan001
Hello everyone,
in the early stages of planning our planned single-family home, I am looking for suggestions or tips on how to make good use of the plot, especially in accordance with the development plan / building permit.
Nothing is fixed yet, but the basic idea is a classic gable roof house of about 140sqm (1507 sqft) where a family of four will eventually grow up. The rough plan calls for a footprint of approximately 9x12m (30x39 feet).
The plot is generally well shaped, but overall, the question remains how to fit everything together.
What we would ideally like to accommodate:
- the mentioned house
- 2 covered parking spaces, preferably as carports, without needing to move one car to get the other out
- a masonry workshop, ideally about 16sqm (172 sqft)
- a terrace facing west
- a pathway from the parking spaces to the rear part of the plot (for bins, etc.)
Information about the plot:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size 599sqm (6445 sqft)
Site coverage ratio (Floor area ratio) 0.35
Floor space index (FSI) 0.6
Building lines and boundaries: building line 5m (16 feet) from the bottom of the plan / approximately south, buildable area 13m (43 feet) deep across the full width
Edge development: garages and ancillary buildings allowed up to a maximum of 9m (30 feet)
Ancillary structures (not garages or parking spaces) can also be placed outside the buildable area but are limited to a total of 10sqm (108 sqft).
Owner’s Requirements
Garage, carport: ideally 2 covered parking spaces
Masonry workshop: preferably larger than 16sqm (172 sqft)
House Design
Rough design: classic gable roof house around 140sqm (1507 sqft)
The initial idea was, of course, to have a sunny terrace. However, since the building line requires construction along the street side (bottom of the plan), only the west side remains available for this. As the plot is not very wide, this leads to the house being oriented vertically. To create the largest possible terrace/play area, the carport is located on the east side as a direct boundary development, including a covered entrance area. It then seemed smart to build the masonry workshop as the rear wall of the carport, so the carport could also be used as a covered area for dirty work. Considering the maximum boundary development of 9m (30 feet) and that 6m (20 feet) would be used for the carport, a workshop measuring 3x5m (10x16 feet) would fit well, leaving a 1m (3 feet) passage to the backyard.
Unfortunately, I then discovered in the development plan that ancillary buildings are limited to a total of 10sqm (108 sqft). This rules out the plan for a separate masonry workshop, since 10sqm is too small for meaningful use.
My question now is how to create a workshop that is as cost-effective and permitted as possible?
I see the following options:
1. Double garage + single carport:
The workshop could fit into one side of the garage, with both cars parked outside while working. The second car would be parked permanently under the single carport (or possibly a double, depending on cost). However, I can only hope the neighbor does not require that both cars be parked inside the garage simultaneously. Also, this option does not provide a passage to the backyard except through the garage; otherwise, the house would need to be shifted further west, narrowing an already narrow garden strip.
2. Large single garage + single carport:
To avoid legal issues, a very large single garage of 6x4m (20x13 feet) or 6x5m (20x16 feet) might be possible. Although storage would still likely be limited to car-related items, this would at least allow a passage to the rear area.
3. Workshop integrated as a bay/window into the house + double carport:
If the workshop is part of the main building and not considered an ancillary structure, there should be no problem. So, the workshop would be an additional room inside the house, plus a two-car carport. Unfortunately, this idea is not very popular with the lady of the house (noise concerns), and I estimate this would also be the most expensive solution.
Do you see any other options or solutions?
I currently lack a good sense of the best solution, especially regarding costs.
Since this is a new development area, I am somewhat hesitant about using the garage directly as a workshop, but in 10 years, this probably won’t matter anymore…
(And completely separate from this, maybe we should consider a north-facing terrace with the house oriented horizontally to create a larger rectangular garden, see image 2?)
Many thanks in advance for your thoughts and suggestions.
in the early stages of planning our planned single-family home, I am looking for suggestions or tips on how to make good use of the plot, especially in accordance with the development plan / building permit.
Nothing is fixed yet, but the basic idea is a classic gable roof house of about 140sqm (1507 sqft) where a family of four will eventually grow up. The rough plan calls for a footprint of approximately 9x12m (30x39 feet).
The plot is generally well shaped, but overall, the question remains how to fit everything together.
What we would ideally like to accommodate:
- the mentioned house
- 2 covered parking spaces, preferably as carports, without needing to move one car to get the other out
- a masonry workshop, ideally about 16sqm (172 sqft)
- a terrace facing west
- a pathway from the parking spaces to the rear part of the plot (for bins, etc.)
Information about the plot:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size 599sqm (6445 sqft)
Site coverage ratio (Floor area ratio) 0.35
Floor space index (FSI) 0.6
Building lines and boundaries: building line 5m (16 feet) from the bottom of the plan / approximately south, buildable area 13m (43 feet) deep across the full width
Edge development: garages and ancillary buildings allowed up to a maximum of 9m (30 feet)
Ancillary structures (not garages or parking spaces) can also be placed outside the buildable area but are limited to a total of 10sqm (108 sqft).
Owner’s Requirements
Garage, carport: ideally 2 covered parking spaces
Masonry workshop: preferably larger than 16sqm (172 sqft)
House Design
Rough design: classic gable roof house around 140sqm (1507 sqft)
The initial idea was, of course, to have a sunny terrace. However, since the building line requires construction along the street side (bottom of the plan), only the west side remains available for this. As the plot is not very wide, this leads to the house being oriented vertically. To create the largest possible terrace/play area, the carport is located on the east side as a direct boundary development, including a covered entrance area. It then seemed smart to build the masonry workshop as the rear wall of the carport, so the carport could also be used as a covered area for dirty work. Considering the maximum boundary development of 9m (30 feet) and that 6m (20 feet) would be used for the carport, a workshop measuring 3x5m (10x16 feet) would fit well, leaving a 1m (3 feet) passage to the backyard.
Unfortunately, I then discovered in the development plan that ancillary buildings are limited to a total of 10sqm (108 sqft). This rules out the plan for a separate masonry workshop, since 10sqm is too small for meaningful use.
My question now is how to create a workshop that is as cost-effective and permitted as possible?
I see the following options:
1. Double garage + single carport:
The workshop could fit into one side of the garage, with both cars parked outside while working. The second car would be parked permanently under the single carport (or possibly a double, depending on cost). However, I can only hope the neighbor does not require that both cars be parked inside the garage simultaneously. Also, this option does not provide a passage to the backyard except through the garage; otherwise, the house would need to be shifted further west, narrowing an already narrow garden strip.
2. Large single garage + single carport:
To avoid legal issues, a very large single garage of 6x4m (20x13 feet) or 6x5m (20x16 feet) might be possible. Although storage would still likely be limited to car-related items, this would at least allow a passage to the rear area.
3. Workshop integrated as a bay/window into the house + double carport:
If the workshop is part of the main building and not considered an ancillary structure, there should be no problem. So, the workshop would be an additional room inside the house, plus a two-car carport. Unfortunately, this idea is not very popular with the lady of the house (noise concerns), and I estimate this would also be the most expensive solution.
Do you see any other options or solutions?
I currently lack a good sense of the best solution, especially regarding costs.
Since this is a new development area, I am somewhat hesitant about using the garage directly as a workshop, but in 10 years, this probably won’t matter anymore…
(And completely separate from this, maybe we should consider a north-facing terrace with the house oriented horizontally to create a larger rectangular garden, see image 2?)
Many thanks in advance for your thoughts and suggestions.
If you want to avoid conflicts with your neighbors, you should especially make sure that your workshop is well soundproofed. Our workshop is built solidly with 24cm (9.5 inches) thick masonry walls. In addition, the ceiling and floor are insulated. Still, you can clearly hear it when my partner turns on the saw. Our closest neighbor lives about 20m (65 feet) across the street. If my husband saws for more than 30 minutes, I start to complain because I don’t want to spoil the relationship with the neighbors.
Escroda schrieb:
as soon as the plot has been registered in the cadastre.Yes, the development plan still doesn’t really show anything at all. At least the land next door on Beck Street looks quite flat. Still, I don’t like that there is so little information on the elevations yet.Stefan001 schrieb:
What does a purchase contract look like if the plot still has to be created?Is there any idea yet how the ratio of applicants to plots might turn out?https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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Stefan00118 Apr 2020 12:13Thanks in advance to everyone.
I don’t think there is a magic solution here. I will see what the building professionals say and then try to get figures for the different options; otherwise, the discussion will probably go around in circles forever.
I can’t say anything about the ratio.
I think most of the questions about contour lines will still be clarified (or of course the property will only be purchased once this is confirmed).
I don’t think there is a magic solution here. I will see what the building professionals say and then try to get figures for the different options; otherwise, the discussion will probably go around in circles forever.
11ant schrieb:
Yes, there is actually nothing visible in the zoning plan yet. At least it looks quite flat next door on Beck Street. Still, I wouldn’t like the fact that there is little information about the elevation.
Do we even know what the applicant-to-lot ratio might be?
I can’t say anything about the ratio.
I think most of the questions about contour lines will still be clarified (or of course the property will only be purchased once this is confirmed).
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Stefan00121 Apr 2020 21:08Small update:
We’ve secured a plot of land! ops: ops: ops:
And not just any plot! It’s exactly the one we wanted. This gives us a bit more flexibility.
(white building boundary, this time without a building line, and dark green indicates the mandatory hedge, street/private cul-de-sac at the bottom of the plan)
Now it’s time to gather all the details and then see what the purchase contract says!
Still have 1-2 questions for the experts.
The development plan requires a special hedge to be planted along all public traffic areas (development plan §12.6). However, this plot only borders a private cul-de-sac. From this, I would conclude that I am free to plant whatever I want along the cul-de-sac?
Also, what exactly does §12.8 mean about earth embankments having to be adjusted to the level of the height outside the planning area?
We’ve secured a plot of land! ops: ops: ops:
And not just any plot! It’s exactly the one we wanted. This gives us a bit more flexibility.
(white building boundary, this time without a building line, and dark green indicates the mandatory hedge, street/private cul-de-sac at the bottom of the plan)
Now it’s time to gather all the details and then see what the purchase contract says!
Still have 1-2 questions for the experts.
The development plan requires a special hedge to be planted along all public traffic areas (development plan §12.6). However, this plot only borders a private cul-de-sac. From this, I would conclude that I am free to plant whatever I want along the cul-de-sac?
Also, what exactly does §12.8 mean about earth embankments having to be adjusted to the level of the height outside the planning area?
Stefan001 schrieb:
We got a plot of land!Congratulations. Stefan001 schrieb:
From this, can I conclude that I am allowed to plant whatever I want along the access road?I think so too. Stefan001 schrieb:
Also, what does §12.8 mean when it says that earth embankments must be aligned with the level outside the planning area?It means that embankments at the boundary of the development plan area are not allowed, so no retaining walls, slope stones, L-shaped blocks, or similar structures.Stefan001 schrieb:
We got a plot of land! ops: ops: ops:
Time to celebrate with some sparkling wine!Similar topics