ᐅ Photovoltaics – Questions About Taxes and Commercial Classification
Created on: 5 Sep 2019 16:44
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Christian K.
Hello everyone,
We are planning to install a photovoltaic system with a battery storage for our new single-family house. As far as I understand, I should register a small business beforehand so that I can declare value-added tax (VAT) or sales tax. Then, I would need to report the monthly earnings from the photovoltaic system to the tax authorities, but this way I can reclaim the VAT on the purchase costs and depreciate the entire system over 20 years.
We are getting the battery from Sonnen and will sign a contract with Sonnen. This means the surplus energy will be fed into Sonnen’s system and compensated. This should be relevant, but I mention it just for completeness.
Is this correct? Is there anything else I should consider when registering the business, besides being able to declare VAT?
Thanks
We are planning to install a photovoltaic system with a battery storage for our new single-family house. As far as I understand, I should register a small business beforehand so that I can declare value-added tax (VAT) or sales tax. Then, I would need to report the monthly earnings from the photovoltaic system to the tax authorities, but this way I can reclaim the VAT on the purchase costs and depreciate the entire system over 20 years.
We are getting the battery from Sonnen and will sign a contract with Sonnen. This means the surplus energy will be fed into Sonnen’s system and compensated. This should be relevant, but I mention it just for completeness.
Is this correct? Is there anything else I should consider when registering the business, besides being able to declare VAT?
Thanks
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Christian K.6 Sep 2019 13:39I have read through the website, but I’m still struggling with the linked pages. What I don’t fully understand yet is the issue regarding taxes. Yes, you don’t need to register a business, but what are the differences? What are the advantages and disadvantages if I register a business compared to doing it without business registration?
Otherwise, I find some of the evidence on the website a bit weak. For example, the cloud community:
Points 2/3: I can’t make sense of these. What kind of negative experiences? Are they representative?
Point 4: Source? Although that is obviously true. In the past, beer cost 50 pfennig. What’s interesting is the extent and over what period. But again, just a claim without any sources.
Don’t get me wrong, the site is helpful because it has a lot of information, or statements such as, for example, that the feed-in tariff is assigned to Senec. Would you go with Senec for that? But many sources are personal opinions of forum members.
Otherwise, I find some of the evidence on the website a bit weak. For example, the cloud community:
Point 1: Which contract is simple? The number of pages alone doesn’t tell you much. I find this statement sensationalist.
- usually consists of 25-30 pages of complex contract documents that grant the provider numerous rights and powers. Not transparent
- "There is no such thing as electricity in a 'cloud,' and these offers are nothing more than regular electricity supply contracts."
- "Alongside me, quite a few other people here are having negative experiences with cloud electricity."
- By the way: the so-called community contribution basic fee (20-70 EUR monthly) will increase!
Points 2/3: I can’t make sense of these. What kind of negative experiences? Are they representative?
Point 4: Source? Although that is obviously true. In the past, beer cost 50 pfennig. What’s interesting is the extent and over what period. But again, just a claim without any sources.
Don’t get me wrong, the site is helpful because it has a lot of information, or statements such as, for example, that the feed-in tariff is assigned to Senec. Would you go with Senec for that? But many sources are personal opinions of forum members.
Grantlhaua schrieb:
This has nothing to do with how the system is designed. A heat pump tariff is always cheaper than the regular household electricity rate. See the answer from Lumpi_LE.
Lumpi_LE schrieb:
Of course, you can use it for both. In an energy-efficient new building, you don’t separate the heat pump and household electricity. In practice, it looks like this (just experienced at a neighbor’s). The electrician refuses to connect the heat pump to the household electricity and insists on a second meter because that’s how they have always done it.
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boxandroof6 Sep 2019 14:00Heinz2k schrieb:
In practice, it looks like this (just experienced with a neighbor). The electrician refuses to connect the heat pump to the house electricity and insists on installing a second meter because “that’s how it has always been done.” My electrician contacted the utility company on his own and got the go-ahead. The justification from the utility was that in our residential area, no one else has a heat pump or only we are newly building.
Christian K. schrieb:
Otherwise, I find some of the evidence on the website a bit lacking. For example, the cloud community. Until someone takes the effort to objectively review the contracts and risks, it will probably remain that way. The product "photovoltaics," with or without storage, works perfectly well without a third party who either profits or gives away money.
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HilfeHilfe6 Sep 2019 20:12boxandroof schrieb:
My electrician proactively contacted the utility company and obtained the approval. The utility’s reasoning was that in our development area, no one else has installed a heat pump; we are the only new build with one.
Until someone takes the time to objectively review the contract terms and associated risks, it will likely remain this way. The "photovoltaic" system, with or without battery storage, works perfectly without a third party that either profits along the way or has money to give away.I also have a heat pump. So, does your heat pump run on utility electricity?B
boxandroof6 Sep 2019 20:30When the sun is shining.
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Christian K.6 Sep 2019 21:41I have now found an explanation related to my original question:
I still do not understand the difference between operator B and C.
(a) Does operator B or C need to register a business?
(b) Is the advantage of operator C solely the option to apply a special depreciation, or can only operator C generally depreciate the installation?
I still do not understand the difference between operator B and C.
(a) Does operator B or C need to register a business?
(b) Is the advantage of operator C solely the option to apply a special depreciation, or can only operator C generally depreciate the installation?
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