ᐅ Finally building, but still have a few questions

Created on: 29 Mar 2017 17:21
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Schnuckline
Hello everyone,

After searching for several years, we finally managed to secure a nice building plot! Soon we can get started. I am currently working on the floor plans so that our architect can submit the building permit / planning permission application.

I have a few questions and hope someone might have some experience to help me out

- We would like to install a small bathroom in the basement (habitable basement). Our home builder advised against it due to high additional costs caused by a lifting station and a backflow valve. For the washing machine and two sinks (kitchen area and laundry room), a small floor-level lifting unit would apparently be sufficient, but not for a toilet and shower. However, our basement specialist (whom we chose separately) believes that a small unit would also work in this case. Can anyone share some insight on this?

- Then, I need to plan an installation shaft on the ground floor, said our architect. Now I wonder, does the heating system (air heat pump with ventilation) have to be located in the basement directly under this shaft, or can it be placed somewhere else entirely?

- And one more thing, quite different Our plot is surrounded by other houses on three sides, and the street runs along the fourth side. The building envelope and the house are situated quite far (about 6-7 meters (20-23 feet)) from the street. We can easily install a 1.80 m (6 feet) high privacy fence on the three sides adjoining neighbors, as long as we keep a certain distance from the property boundary. But does anyone know how it works on the street side, well outside the building envelope? Does the building envelope have any influence on fences at all?

Kind regards
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Silent010
6 Apr 2017 08:54
Oh dear – a residential neighborhood where every household surrounds their property with a 1.80 m (6 ft) high privacy fence – I wouldn’t want to live there.

Wouldn’t you rather talk to your neighbors over the fence or help out with a packet of flour when baking? With trees, hedges, and shrubs, you can create a varied garden border that prevents direct views into the property while still maintaining openness towards your neighborhood.

This might differ between urban and rural areas, though. Here, in the countryside near the city, if someone builds a house and puts up a 1.80 m (6 ft) privacy fence all around, all the neighbors usually shake their heads. In that case, it might be better to buy a detached plot in the forest.

@Themenstarter: I don’t mean to criticize you, just maybe encourage you to reconsider. What you are planning doesn’t promote good neighborly relations – and those can matter for many years.
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Schnuckline
6 Apr 2017 10:13
@Silent010
@DNL
Good morning to both of you. Thank you very much for your feedback. I completely understand your concerns. Many people have this attitude—a friendly neighborhood, talking over the fence with neighbors, keeping an eye on each other, and so on.

We’re not bad people or anything unusual; we just fall into the category of “We have no idea who the people next to us are, and that’s fine.” We don’t want anything from anyone and are happy when no one wants anything from us. I would never think of opening the door when someone rings unannounced. It might sound odd, but this is how we feel comfortable.

We’re not recluses; we have family and very close friends with whom we share our lives. But we prefer to decide for ourselves who we allow a glimpse into our private space and who we don’t.

If there had been the option to buy an empty lot, we probably would have given our kidneys for it. Unfortunately, you can’t really choose your location where we live.
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Silent010
6 Apr 2017 10:22
@Schnuckline Okay, everyone should live in the way that makes them feel comfortable. But please keep in mind that as you get older, you will eventually depend on the help of others, often initially strangers.

May I ask whether you live in a city or in the countryside, and whether you grew up there or moved in later?
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Schnuckline
6 Apr 2017 10:37
@Silent010 Of course, feel free to ask. We both spent our childhood in very rural areas and then moved to more urban locations as young adults. We will be building now in Reutlingen (with a population of about 110,000, it can be considered a large city), but in a neighborhood that could be described as a suburb.
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Escroda
6 Apr 2017 10:48
11ant schrieb:
And yes, in most municipalities, lawn mower sheds of 3 x 6 m (10 x 20 ft) are usually permitted.

Where do you get these dimensions from?
Schnuckline schrieb:
Is the garden shed allowed to be located outside of the building window?
ypg schrieb:
But it is not a "structural facility".

What else then? A garden shed is a building (according to the state building code, buildings are a subset of structural facilities), which according to §14 of the land use ordinance counts as a subordinate ancillary structure and is therefore allowed outside the buildable areas unless the development plan explicitly excludes it, which it does not in this case.
Schnuckline schrieb:
"Urban planning and traffic-related aspects also play a role here."
Whatever that means.

It means that your neighbor might be obstructed in their clear view of the street when leaving their garage due to the garden shed or privacy fence, and therefore the permit can be denied. Also, for aesthetic reasons, your privacy fence might not be approved. Without concrete plans, no binding statement from the authorities can be expected.
Schnuckline schrieb:
It was known to me that paths and parking spaces as well as roof overhangs are included in the floor area ratio calculation.

Not in your case, because your development plan is based on the land use ordinance from 1968.
11ant schrieb:
For example, grass pavers usually "count" for 20% of the floor area calculation.

Where does that information come from? The 1990 land use ordinance does not distinguish between degrees of sealing. Soil sealing was the reason why §19 (4) was amended, but initially, this has no effect on the calculation. Only if the floor area ratio is not met can permeability be used as a reason for an approvable exceedance. But if you know of other procedures, I would appreciate sources; there is always something new to learn.
Schnuckline schrieb:
We did not get a waiver to rotate the roof.

Not even a few degrees to align the house parallel to the street?
Schnuckline schrieb:
Our knee wall will look like in versions 6, 7, 8, and 9. So 1.60 m (5 ft 3 in).

However, the development plan permits only 60 cm (2 ft) and a roof pitch of 28°–35°. Has this been clarified with the building authority?
Schnuckline schrieb:
But we are currently considering whether to add a dormer (I believe it’s called differently) like in version 2 on the south side.

Roof extensions are also not allowed according to the development plan.
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Curly
6 Apr 2017 10:53
Schnuckline schrieb:
@Silent010
@DNL I would never even consider answering the door when someone rings without a prior announcement. It really sounds strange, but that’s what makes us feel comfortable.
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That doesn’t sound strange to me at all. I also don’t open the door for anyone unless I know who it is. I’d rather be cautious than risk being attacked later.

Best regards,
Sabine