ᐅ Recessed ceiling spotlight as ceiling lighting

Created on: 17 Nov 2016 08:10
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Becker84
Hello, yesterday I spent hours planning downlights in various rooms (kitchen, living room, bathrooms).

Late in the evening, I simulated a downlight in my apartment by removing 2 of 3 GU10 LED bulbs and positioning the remaining one facing straight down.

I found the result surprisingly poor. Of course, it was only one downlight, but even if you repeat them every 1.2–1.5m (4–5 feet), the lighting is completely different. Only the tiles on the floor are illuminated. When standing underneath, you look ghostly. The reflections on the ceiling and especially on the walls are completely missing—these are what make the room feel comfortably lit.

Now I’m thinking of almost completely removing the downlights (kitchen: 9–10, living room: 5–6, bathroom: 9–10, hallway: 4). Only the countertop/sink area would get 2 downlights, and the shower (enclosure) 1.

Have you decided on ceiling downlights? If so, are you happy with them?

A nice side effect: I save a lot of money.
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Knallkörper
17 Nov 2016 23:31
We have over 80 spotlights in the new build. Last weekend, I tested the 5W 36° spotlight from Osram. Trash, totally dim! In a direct comparison, a 12W halogen lamp is clearly brighter, even though the Osram spotlight is supposed to be equivalent to a 35W lamp.
Becker8420 Nov 2016 16:32
Thanks for the tips.
I decided to light only the hallway (7 meters long) with 5 spotlights, spaced about 1.16 meters (3.8 feet) apart, and the countertop/sink area (2.1 meters (6.9 feet)) with 2 spotlights, spaced 70–80 centimeters (28–31 inches) apart.
Otherwise, there will be centrally located ceiling lights, and in the shower, an additional outlet for a splash-proof ceiling light.
In the living room, of course, there will be two ceiling lights, each placed centrally.

While browsing, I found ceiling lights that can be controlled by remote, adjustable from 2800 to 6000 K, dimmable, with a 270° beam angle, 128 LEDs, 45 W, and 712 to 4000 lumens.

There’s also a 90 W version with 9000 lumens.

If that’s not enough, I don’t know what is.
I think it’s great that you can vary the color temperature and brightness.

And if I don’t like it later, I can always install a dropped ceiling.
It probably won’t cost more than 25 core drill holes.
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garfunkel
20 Nov 2016 17:21
Can you share a link to ceiling lights that allow dimming both color temperature and brightness? Sounds interesting.
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Alex85
20 Nov 2016 17:31
Becker84 schrieb:
And if I don’t like it, I can always install a dropped ceiling later.
It probably won’t cost more than 25 core drillings.

Doesn’t it make more sense to plan for this during construction? You can leave space for installation boxes when pouring the ceiling.
Whether the core drillings will even be possible later on (since the ceiling isn’t just concrete, but also reinforcement, ventilation ducts, etc.) is another question. Or am I being too meticulous?
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DragonyxXL
20 Nov 2016 19:53
garfunkel schrieb:
Can you share a link to the ceiling lights that can be dimmed in both color temperature and brightness? Sounds interesting

I would be interested as well.
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Knallkörper
20 Nov 2016 20:23
Core drilling is usually not allowed unless it has been structurally accounted for in advance. And most importantly, how is the wiring supposed to be done? Dropping the ceiling is out of the question. Who wants a ceiling lower than necessary nowadays? So, the only real option is enclosures to be cast into concrete, costing around 5 euros each.