Hello everyone,
We are currently in the decision-making phase for the appliances for our future Schüller country-style kitchen, and we are still quite undecided, especially on this point.
Range hood:
Visually, a retro-style range hood would probably fit best. However, these are usually quite expensive (for example, from Smeg). At the moment, we have planned for an AEG X68163BV10. However, this does not seem to be the best option in this price range. Does anyone have suggestions?
Refrigerator:
For aesthetic reasons, we chose the Geronje ONRK193C. Is it any good? (It costs around 1,100 EUR — we will not buy this together with the kitchen.)
Oven:
For the oven, it was important to us that it has as little stainless steel as possible (we don’t like that) and includes a pyrolytic self-cleaning function. We narrowed it down to three models (Siemens, Bosch, and Neff). Among these, the following Siemens model was the favorite regarding price/performance: Siemens iQ700 HB678GBS6.
Cooktop (Induction):
We are still uncertain here. Currently, the AEG HK6542H1FB cooktop is planned. However, this also doesn’t seem to be the best choice for the price. Perhaps you have better suggestions? But please nothing much more expensive.
Dishwasher:
For the dishwasher, a Neff GX665 (S52P65X0EU) was recommended to us. However, I have read online that models with zeolite technology are also popular right now. With Siemens/Bosch, there are many reports of problems (error code "E31") online... So we are also quite unsure here.
We are really looking forward to your help and tips.
Thank you very much!
Gatho
We are currently in the decision-making phase for the appliances for our future Schüller country-style kitchen, and we are still quite undecided, especially on this point.
Range hood:
Visually, a retro-style range hood would probably fit best. However, these are usually quite expensive (for example, from Smeg). At the moment, we have planned for an AEG X68163BV10. However, this does not seem to be the best option in this price range. Does anyone have suggestions?
Refrigerator:
For aesthetic reasons, we chose the Geronje ONRK193C. Is it any good? (It costs around 1,100 EUR — we will not buy this together with the kitchen.)
Oven:
For the oven, it was important to us that it has as little stainless steel as possible (we don’t like that) and includes a pyrolytic self-cleaning function. We narrowed it down to three models (Siemens, Bosch, and Neff). Among these, the following Siemens model was the favorite regarding price/performance: Siemens iQ700 HB678GBS6.
Cooktop (Induction):
We are still uncertain here. Currently, the AEG HK6542H1FB cooktop is planned. However, this also doesn’t seem to be the best choice for the price. Perhaps you have better suggestions? But please nothing much more expensive.
Dishwasher:
For the dishwasher, a Neff GX665 (S52P65X0EU) was recommended to us. However, I have read online that models with zeolite technology are also popular right now. With Siemens/Bosch, there are many reports of problems (error code "E31") online... So we are also quite unsure here.
We are really looking forward to your help and tips.
Thank you very much!
Gatho
garfunkel schrieb:
What are the advantages of a built-in steam oven?Gentle cooking of vegetables, fish, and meat
Tasty results without using much salt
Retains a lot of natural flavor
Can also be used for canning and sterilizing
For men: fun and experimentation with new technology
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garfunkel28 Jun 2016 21:35Yes, I already know what I can do with it. I just wonder if it’s worth the high cost. In the end, a built-in steam oven can’t offer much more than a basically inexpensive external unit. So why choose a built-in steam oven instead of an external device?
garfunkel schrieb:
Yes, I already know what I can do with it. I’m just wondering if it’s worth spending all that money on it. In the end, a built-in appliance can’t be much different from a basically inexpensive external unit.
So why choose a built-in steam oven instead of a freestanding appliance?How much space does the external appliance take up in the kitchen?
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garfunkel28 Jun 2016 22:26If you only take it out for use, then maybe as much as a pot or a pan.
ypg schrieb:
Gentle preparation of vegetables, fish, and meat
Tasty without much salt
Lots of natural flavor
Can be used for canning and sterilizing
For men: fun and experimentation with new technologyI also considered getting a steamer for a while. We didn’t end up buying one.
However, for potatoes and sometimes vegetables like cauliflower and broccoli, we often use a pot insert. We add only a small amount of water, bring it to a boil, and the steam cooks the potatoes. It takes about the same time as boiling them in water.
Recently, I received the same tip from a chef for stuffed mushrooms as well as stuffed kohlrabi, both of which are usually prepared in a steamer. The result with the kohlrabi looked just like what was shown in the cooking demonstration. The mushrooms, however, didn’t turn out the same. Both tasted good, but the “appearance” of the mushrooms wasn’t as nice.
Of course, I can imagine that a steamer allows for much more variety (since meat and vegetables were already mentioned).
Perhaps someone has tried both methods with vegetables: using a pot insert and using a steamer. Are the results (generally) comparable for vegetables?
You need to distinguish between pure steam cookers and steam ovens. Steam cookers operate only up to 100°C (212°F), while steam ovens can reach up to 250°C (482°F).
This means that steam ovens offer significantly more cooking options.
Another point to consider: if you have a permanently installed steam appliance (let’s call it that for now, whether the cooker or the oven), you tend to use it more often. The luxury models are those with a fixed water supply (for example, from Gaggenau), which also solves the problem of forgetting to fill the water tank or leaving it during vacations (so nothing can stagnate).
If you use such a steam appliance frequently (and I believe that’s when you’ll always cook your vegetables in it), you might not need such a large cooktop anymore and will require far fewer pots (since steaming uses inserts).
You can easily prepare all the side dishes together in the steam appliance.
For me, an ideal combination is a steam oven paired with a flat induction cooktop combined with a Teppanyaki grill from Bora. The grill can also be used to keep pots warm, which is the only weak point of induction cooking.
I must admit, I’m a complete cooking and kitchen enthusiast and willing to invest quite a bit of money. Someone with a different passion might probably just roll their eyes.
This means that steam ovens offer significantly more cooking options.
Another point to consider: if you have a permanently installed steam appliance (let’s call it that for now, whether the cooker or the oven), you tend to use it more often. The luxury models are those with a fixed water supply (for example, from Gaggenau), which also solves the problem of forgetting to fill the water tank or leaving it during vacations (so nothing can stagnate).
If you use such a steam appliance frequently (and I believe that’s when you’ll always cook your vegetables in it), you might not need such a large cooktop anymore and will require far fewer pots (since steaming uses inserts).
You can easily prepare all the side dishes together in the steam appliance.
For me, an ideal combination is a steam oven paired with a flat induction cooktop combined with a Teppanyaki grill from Bora. The grill can also be used to keep pots warm, which is the only weak point of induction cooking.
I must admit, I’m a complete cooking and kitchen enthusiast and willing to invest quite a bit of money. Someone with a different passion might probably just roll their eyes.