ᐅ Wood-burning stove or similar, with or without DIBt certification
Created on: 8 Dec 2015 20:17
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PlasiHello
The following question
We want to install a stove in our house and are considering whether to have a pressure monitor installed and thus buy a small DIBT-certified stove, or to skip the pressure monitor (2000€) and instead buy a DIBT-certified stove.
According to the chimney sweep, both options are possible. What do you recommend?
The following question
We want to install a stove in our house and are considering whether to have a pressure monitor installed and thus buy a small DIBT-certified stove, or to skip the pressure monitor (2000€) and instead buy a DIBT-certified stove.
According to the chimney sweep, both options are possible. What do you recommend?
You have a very nice and flexible BSFM.
That’s not something you encounter often.
When the person really lets you choose (either/or). Charming. There are others who say, despite being DIBt-certified for room air independence: pressure monitors must be installed on top.
(I also had a very nice BSFM... after a lot of effort...).
Now you have the small problem: still need to find the stove.
DIBt-certified room air-independent wood stoves WITH A VALID DIBt CERTIFICATE are already (or still) comparatively rare. Fireplaces are even much rarer. So please coordinate very precisely with the trusted stove builder / seller. Then have them communicate directly with the BSFM regarding the model, all parameters (fireplace parameters, exhaust gas temperatures, certificates, ventilation system certificates, kitchen hood, installation location, air supply, chimney shaft, …) as well as installation and sealing conditions. If everything is okay, make sure with the BSFM that installation WITHOUT double wall flue is really possible.
The BSFM ALWAYS has the final say.
4 pascal underpressure must never be exceeded. There are additional conditions as well.
What I would really like to spare you: paying the extra 2,000 for the pressure monitor afterwards. In the end, I avoided that too, but it took a lot of negotiations and effort, and it was nerve-wracking until final acceptance despite all the documentation and such (I had basically prepared everything for installing the pressure monitor, but the 2,000 would have annoyed me).
Best regards,
Thorsten
That’s not something you encounter often.
When the person really lets you choose (either/or). Charming. There are others who say, despite being DIBt-certified for room air independence: pressure monitors must be installed on top.
(I also had a very nice BSFM... after a lot of effort...).
Now you have the small problem: still need to find the stove.
DIBt-certified room air-independent wood stoves WITH A VALID DIBt CERTIFICATE are already (or still) comparatively rare. Fireplaces are even much rarer. So please coordinate very precisely with the trusted stove builder / seller. Then have them communicate directly with the BSFM regarding the model, all parameters (fireplace parameters, exhaust gas temperatures, certificates, ventilation system certificates, kitchen hood, installation location, air supply, chimney shaft, …) as well as installation and sealing conditions. If everything is okay, make sure with the BSFM that installation WITHOUT double wall flue is really possible.
The BSFM ALWAYS has the final say.
4 pascal underpressure must never be exceeded. There are additional conditions as well.
What I would really like to spare you: paying the extra 2,000 for the pressure monitor afterwards. In the end, I avoided that too, but it took a lot of negotiations and effort, and it was nerve-wracking until final acceptance despite all the documentation and such (I had basically prepared everything for installing the pressure monitor, but the 2,000 would have annoyed me).
Best regards,
Thorsten
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Please don’t be upset about that. This forum is link-free. It’s intended to be that way and it makes sense (no, I’m not the police here... I don’t know the moderators – they monitor things themselves and without notice...).
That said:
I have been using wood stoves – with a short break – since 2000.
And honestly, despite my deep-rooted Swabian thriftiness, I would never have thought of buying stoves somewhere at a DIY store or online. I’m not crazy.
It may sound trivial:
The subject is actually quite complex. An improperly installed fireplace or wood stove can be dangerous. The risk can be reduced to zero. With good materials and 100% professional installation.
You will definitely pay a little more with a good specialist... but that investment can also pay off. Actually, it does pay off.
Stoves and wood-burning stoves are *indeed* very *complex* products. Defective or poor-quality items carry risks. Especially a wood stove with mechanical ventilation (RLU) if connected incorrectly or poorly maintained by a professional (which is not so simple, either).
Also, because of the many components, natural wear and tear occur and require regular professional maintenance as well as replacement parts (firebricks, seals, grates…).
Only good manufacturers provide spare parts even after 15 or 20 years.
Stove fitters / good suppliers between N and MUC? Google overwhelms me already...
RLU wood stoves: surely you still have a choice between 15–25 brands of excellent quality. Pay attention to the valid certification. See my first post. When it comes to the stove: only direct coordination between stove builder / BSFM helps.
Best regards
Thorsten
Please don’t be upset about that. This forum is link-free. It’s intended to be that way and it makes sense (no, I’m not the police here... I don’t know the moderators – they monitor things themselves and without notice...).
That said:
I have been using wood stoves – with a short break – since 2000.
And honestly, despite my deep-rooted Swabian thriftiness, I would never have thought of buying stoves somewhere at a DIY store or online. I’m not crazy.
It may sound trivial:
The subject is actually quite complex. An improperly installed fireplace or wood stove can be dangerous. The risk can be reduced to zero. With good materials and 100% professional installation.
You will definitely pay a little more with a good specialist... but that investment can also pay off. Actually, it does pay off.
Stoves and wood-burning stoves are *indeed* very *complex* products. Defective or poor-quality items carry risks. Especially a wood stove with mechanical ventilation (RLU) if connected incorrectly or poorly maintained by a professional (which is not so simple, either).
Also, because of the many components, natural wear and tear occur and require regular professional maintenance as well as replacement parts (firebricks, seals, grates…).
Only good manufacturers provide spare parts even after 15 or 20 years.
Stove fitters / good suppliers between N and MUC? Google overwhelms me already...
RLU wood stoves: surely you still have a choice between 15–25 brands of excellent quality. Pay attention to the valid certification. See my first post. When it comes to the stove: only direct coordination between stove builder / BSFM helps.
Best regards
Thorsten
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nordanney8 Dec 2015 22:20Plasi schrieb:
Hello
I have the following question
We want to install a stove in our house and are considering whether to have a pressure monitor installed and thus buy a small DIBT-certified stove, or if we can skip the pressure monitor (2,000€) and instead buy a DIBT-certified stove.
According to the chimney sweep, both options are possible. What do you recommend? A pressure monitor for 2,000€? Who is trying to overcharge you here? It usually costs only around 1,000€ in materials (for the installing company) plus about an hour of labor. What exactly is the pressure monitor supposed to monitor? The controlled ventilation system?
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Sebastian798 Dec 2015 22:35A basic pressure switch does not cost 350 euros plus installation – 2,000 euros is completely exaggerated.
However, I have found several wood-burning stoves with approval. I would simply check which option is cheaper.
And why not buy online if it’s from a reputable brand? That’s what I did, for example – and I even install it myself, which really isn’t rocket science.
However, I have found several wood-burning stoves with approval. I would simply check which option is cheaper.
And why not buy online if it’s from a reputable brand? That’s what I did, for example – and I even install it myself, which really isn’t rocket science.
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