ᐅ Solar / Photovoltaics from an Economic Perspective

Created on: 13 Oct 2015 18:36
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Zeltli
Hello everyone,
what is your assessment of photovoltaic and/or solar systems purely from an economic perspective?

Without going into details.
Single-family house, 199 sqm (2,145 sq ft); 2 adults / 2 children; gas condensing boiler with underfloor heating;

I know it always depends on the individual case, but I would like to hear your opinions based on the points mentioned above and from those who have experience with the additional costs of such systems.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards
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Bauexperte
14 Oct 2015 18:39
Mycraft schrieb:
Well, the warranty is unfortunately of little to no use because most manufacturers have filed for bankruptcy after 5-6 years... So you get no more and no less than the legally mandated 2 years of statutory warranty...

Then you should handle it like f-pNo; large companies mostly have successors. Apart from that, I wouldn’t place the – perhaps deserved – trust in a small operator when it comes to new technology either.

Regards, Bauexperte
Mycraft14 Oct 2015 20:04
I did... still, the investment is hardly worth it... but it is good for peace of mind...
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nordanney
14 Oct 2015 20:31
Mycraft schrieb:
I have... but the investment is hardly worthwhile... though it’s good for peace of mind...

You seem to have a very negative view of photovoltaic systems.
Purely feeding electricity into the grid is indeed unlikely to be very profitable. However, with self-consumption and the guaranteed continued rise in electricity prices (who do you think pays for the new, expensive underground lines? Increase in the Renewable Energy Act surcharge!), it is a worthwhile investment.
Quality modules don’t break down after just a few years either.
Mycraft14 Oct 2015 20:49
nordanney schrieb:
Reasonable modules do not fail after just a few years.

I honestly think that’s a myth... they all basically do the same thing...

I’m not being negative... I just believe there’s no need to sugarcoat it... a standard roof equipped with photovoltaic panels or solar thermal systems in our latitudes is not cost-effective... the investment simply doesn’t pay off because the available area is too small, yet the problems are the same as with a large system... meaning wear and other faults... hotspots, cracks, faulty diodes, and so on.

However, I think it’s great that people install photovoltaic or solar thermal systems on their roofs... I also think it’s great when I see an electric car on the street... but in terms of profitability, it’s not viable.
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merlin83
14 Oct 2015 21:20
oleda222 schrieb:
Assuming the solar system provides 100% of the hot water year-round, otherwise the situation looks even worse.

...and assuming you get the €3,000.00 financed at 0.00% interest. Otherwise, you can subtract another €30 from the approximately €160....

--> I'm glad that, despite the planned gas boiler, I can avoid having to put something on the roof.
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merlin83
14 Oct 2015 21:23
f-pNo schrieb:
Somewhat generally speaking, and you probably don’t have either.

Without going into a detailed calculation, a photovoltaic system usually pays off after about 12-15 years – depending on the agreed feed-in tariff, interest rate, repayment share, self-consumption achieved, and the current electricity price.

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Statements like this aren’t convincing without an example calculation. Didn’t you even run the numbers?

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