ᐅ Which secondary entrance door should I choose (security / fire protection)?

Created on: 21 Aug 2015 13:34
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WildThing
Hello dear forum,

We now need to start choosing our doors, especially the doors leading into the house.
We have direct access from the garage to the hallway. We need a door for this access. The special aspect is that this door will be passed frequently from the inside, as you have to walk past it when going from the main entrance to the wardrobe.

What type of door would you recommend here? Which ones do you have, and what did they cost?

We have received various recommendations:
- Fire door (T30?)
- Security door with RC1 or RC2 rating
- Combination: fire protection + security door
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Bauexperte
24 Aug 2015 20:42
I think you are talking past each other. "Bieber" refers to certified RC 2, while Jochen and Sebastian probably mean RC1 N. In the latter case, the windows only have mushroom pins – the installation is the same as with standard triple glazing. For the former, it is as "Bieber" describes. With RC 2, the U-value of the windows worsens due to the laminated safety glass (VSG), and the installation is significantly more complex.

Best regards, Bauexperte
Bauexperte
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Sebastian79
24 Aug 2015 20:45
Why should installation be more difficult with RC2? As far as I know, this only applies to higher classes – but I’m happy to be corrected.

We also use laminated safety glass (VSG) – and still have a total value of 0.9 and a glass value of 0.6.
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Bieber0815
24 Aug 2015 21:08
Lexmaul79 schrieb:
What exactly should I report?

Maybe a scan of the installation report? Perhaps we are really talking past each other... "Certified RC2 according to DIN EN 1627" might not be the same as "window with glass and fittings based on RC2/WK2". But only you can know that (depending on what your contract/offer includes).
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Sebastian79
24 Aug 2015 22:10
There is no assembly report because nothing has been installed yet. As I said, please clarify for me – I don’t see anything in the standard regarding your special anchors, etc.

Not even an assembly report is formally required...
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Bieber0815
26 Aug 2015 07:28
Lexmaul79 schrieb:
Not even an installation report is mandatory

From everything I can find about RC2, it includes ("certified RC2 according to DIN EN") an installation report (which, of course, only exists after installation).

I don’t want to lecture you... I’m more trying to learn something myself, but I feel like we are talking past each other (see #21).
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Sebastian79
26 Aug 2015 07:32
I can read, of course. But we are not talking past each other – I only know certified fittings/profiles, and the standard recommends a protocol, but it is not mandatory.

The clarification was meant positively – I’m not an expert in this matter.