Hello,
I would like to know what options there are for installing water and electrical lines.
As far as electricity is concerned, my understanding is that the best option is to lay conduits inside the precast concrete slab before the floor slabs are poured, and then embed them in the concrete. If there are several conduits grouped together in one area, that spot is reinforced with additional steel mesh.
Water pipes, however, should not be embedded in the slab because they might need repairs at some point. Instead, they are typically installed on top of the concrete slab, and that is where complications begin. I have heard many different approaches, and some are even described in forums as poor workmanship.
For example, water pipes are placed on the concrete slab, and the impact sound insulation around the pipes is cut out where the pipes are located. After the pipes are laid, the voids are filled and the screed is applied over it. Then the underfloor heating is installed on top. Some say this method is faulty because the insulation is interrupted by it. However, I know someone who did it that way and said it doesn’t cause any noticeable issues.
So, what is the correct way to do this?
Where is the best place to install the pipes for heating and potable water?
In some rooms, I am also considering wall heating, but in others like the kitchen, it is not possible because all walls are fully occupied with cabinets and appliances.
!!!
If you only want to answer my question, you can skip the block in brackets, otherwise please read:
[ No, I will not produce my own floor slabs. No, I will not draw the plan myself. Yes, I am aware that you need training for this. Yes, a structural engineer will calculate everything. Yes, the electrical installation plan will be done by an electrician. Yes, the water and heating plans will be done by a heating installer. Yes, in the end the structural design will be checked by a civil engineer. Everything will be planned by a professional, but I would like to understand how all of this is done correctly in order to discuss the options with them.]
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I would like to know what options there are for installing water and electrical lines.
As far as electricity is concerned, my understanding is that the best option is to lay conduits inside the precast concrete slab before the floor slabs are poured, and then embed them in the concrete. If there are several conduits grouped together in one area, that spot is reinforced with additional steel mesh.
Water pipes, however, should not be embedded in the slab because they might need repairs at some point. Instead, they are typically installed on top of the concrete slab, and that is where complications begin. I have heard many different approaches, and some are even described in forums as poor workmanship.
For example, water pipes are placed on the concrete slab, and the impact sound insulation around the pipes is cut out where the pipes are located. After the pipes are laid, the voids are filled and the screed is applied over it. Then the underfloor heating is installed on top. Some say this method is faulty because the insulation is interrupted by it. However, I know someone who did it that way and said it doesn’t cause any noticeable issues.
So, what is the correct way to do this?
Where is the best place to install the pipes for heating and potable water?
In some rooms, I am also considering wall heating, but in others like the kitchen, it is not possible because all walls are fully occupied with cabinets and appliances.
!!!
If you only want to answer my question, you can skip the block in brackets, otherwise please read:
[ No, I will not produce my own floor slabs. No, I will not draw the plan myself. Yes, I am aware that you need training for this. Yes, a structural engineer will calculate everything. Yes, the electrical installation plan will be done by an electrician. Yes, the water and heating plans will be done by a heating installer. Yes, in the end the structural design will be checked by a civil engineer. Everything will be planned by a professional, but I would like to understand how all of this is done correctly in order to discuss the options with them.]
!!!
Vicky Pedia20 Jan 2020 16:04nordanney schrieb:
The easiest way is to simply lay everything on the unfinished subfloor and then "hack" it together as you described. That’s how most builders do it. Exactly! A small tip: make sure to lay it out at right angles, as this will make cutting the insulation easier later on.
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Peter Hausbau20 Jan 2020 16:40Great, thank you very much for all the responses!
opalau schrieb:
Apart from ceiling outlets and spotlights, everything in our case was installed on the finished raw ceiling. There was usually still enough space above for two thin layers of insulation. Our home savings contract had no issues with this, and so far, I haven’t noticed any differences on the screed. The ventilation duct should have had a gap to the wall. Otherwise, there is a risk the screed could crack.