ᐅ Is the shell construction satisfactory or defective? Experiences?

Created on: 21 Oct 2024 19:13
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tom_tom
It concerns a decision regarding a company that could carry out our shell construction. I was able to inspect a recent shell construction by the company. Perhaps there are experts here who can comment on the workmanship? Are there any obvious defects at first glance, and does anyone have experience with this?
Construction site with red brick masonry, metal scaffolding, and wooden components at the building front.
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nordanney
21 Oct 2024 20:00
@Tolentino answered correctly.
But the truly correct response to your question would be a clear yes or no.
With this tiny excerpt, it’s practically impossible to make any meaningful assessment. A reliable answer cannot be given.
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tom_tom
21 Oct 2024 20:13
Unfortunately, I don’t have more pictures. It reassures me that based on the visible measurements not being met in the images, it’s still not possible to definitively say that the company is completely out of the question. That gives some hope. The architect has mostly worked with the company so far and is confident in their quality. Still, I have a somewhat uneasy feeling about this.
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nordanney
21 Oct 2024 20:37
tom_tom schrieb:

I still have a somewhat uneasy feeling about this.
Why? What are the reasons for that?

Just take significantly more photos tomorrow.
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tom_tom
21 Oct 2024 20:48
Unfortunately, the walls have already been plastered.

As a non-expert, I am concerned about the sometimes minimal offset of the bricks, as shown in the close-up here. At least, I understand from your comments that this does not necessarily have to be a problem or reflect poorly on the company. By the way, this is a specialist company affiliated with the local builders’ guild. But that might not mean much(?)
Brick wall with mortar and metal pipe in rough construction area.

Vertical metal pipe on red brick wall with visible horizontal pipe support

Close-up of a red brick wall showing visible texture
Tolentino21 Oct 2024 21:06
Buchsbaum066 schrieb:

I don’t understand what exactly is not professional about this.

The lap length must be 0.4h. At the marked points, it is at least not, and I believe I see even less, but that might be due to the viewing angle.
The fact that this was not only done in one row (possibly due to a bonding layer or an overlap for perimeter insulation or something similar) suggests to me that the contractors either are not aware of this binding rule or simply don’t care as long as it is quicker.
Both are red flags because if they don’t follow this simple basic rule, what else might they be doing wrong?
However, with very thorough and close supervision, it is manageable. The question is whether that outweighs a potential cost advantage. If I had another option with better work samples, I would contact them again to see if there is room to negotiate the price (assuming that is why the sloppy work has been preferred so far).
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Zaba123
21 Oct 2024 21:18
Tolentino schrieb:

The overlap length must be 0.4h. This minimum is not met at the marked spots; I think I see even less, but that could be due to the perspective.
The fact that this was not only done in a single row (possibly because of a sill plate or an extension for perimeter insulation or something similar) suggests to me that the contractors either do not know this mandatory rule or simply do not care as long as it’s faster.
Both are red flags, because if they already ignore this basic rule, what else might they be doing wrong?
However, with very thorough inspections, this can of course be managed. The question is whether that compensates for a potentially lower price or not. If I had another option with better workmanship I would contact them again to see if the price can be improved (assuming that has been the reason for previously favoring the poor-quality contractor).

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How can this be manageable if a whole story is built in 2 days? Surely, no one will redo the fourth row from the bottom and the third row from the top just based on feedback from the client.