ᐅ Planning a new build with a design inspired by "Schinkel" or "Persius" style
Created on: 31 Jan 2022 13:41
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Pianist
Good day!
Are there people here who have completed a house project where they aimed to build everything exactly as it would have been done in Schinkel’s time? I mean a house that meets today’s technical and energy standards, but where every visual detail is crafted just like the old master or one of his students would have done. In the end, you get a building that is technically state-of-the-art but looks as if it has stood there for around 200 years. Of course, such a building needs to be located in a suitable place, not in a generic new housing development, so let’s leave the question of the plot aside. Naturally, I also assume that it complies with any existing textual requirements of a building permit / planning permission.
But the question is: Is this done? Is it appropriate? Or is it a “no-go”? There are of course historicist approaches realized by contemporary architectural firms, but I mean a 1:1 replica of a building that genuinely could have been built back then.
Technically, it should be no problem to implement this with skilled craftsmen specialized in renovating such buildings—for example, for the plaster façade with decorative elements or for the windows. You could also work with a shallow-pitched gable roof where photovoltaic panels could be integrated in a way that they are barely visible from below.
I would simply find such a project “cool,” but I don’t know if it might inadvertently violate some ethos or an unwritten architectural rule...
And to make one thing very clear right away: I am very glad to live in the Federal Republic of Germany in the year 2022. Just to avoid any misunderstandings...
Matthias
Are there people here who have completed a house project where they aimed to build everything exactly as it would have been done in Schinkel’s time? I mean a house that meets today’s technical and energy standards, but where every visual detail is crafted just like the old master or one of his students would have done. In the end, you get a building that is technically state-of-the-art but looks as if it has stood there for around 200 years. Of course, such a building needs to be located in a suitable place, not in a generic new housing development, so let’s leave the question of the plot aside. Naturally, I also assume that it complies with any existing textual requirements of a building permit / planning permission.
But the question is: Is this done? Is it appropriate? Or is it a “no-go”? There are of course historicist approaches realized by contemporary architectural firms, but I mean a 1:1 replica of a building that genuinely could have been built back then.
Technically, it should be no problem to implement this with skilled craftsmen specialized in renovating such buildings—for example, for the plaster façade with decorative elements or for the windows. You could also work with a shallow-pitched gable roof where photovoltaic panels could be integrated in a way that they are barely visible from below.
I would simply find such a project “cool,” but I don’t know if it might inadvertently violate some ethos or an unwritten architectural rule...
And to make one thing very clear right away: I am very glad to live in the Federal Republic of Germany in the year 2022. Just to avoid any misunderstandings...
Matthias
Your request is nothing new; we already discussed this back in October 2018: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/edles-wohnhaus-im-roemischen-stil-wer-baut-sowas.28914/ Otherwise, you can check out Vogel Architects in Berlin or look into Stoeter villas.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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Benutzer20031 Jan 2022 16:12Pianist schrieb:
Are there any people here who have completed a house project where they aimed to do everything as it was done in Schinkel's time?No idea. However, there are various newly built houses and architects who can create exactly what you want if you specify your requirements.Yes, that would be a historically styled example. That’s exactly what I didn’t want, but something more "authentic" instead.
Since the names "Ringlstetter" and "Vogel" have already come up: Ringlstetter is an extremely interesting source because his books focus on fundamentals and cover many important considerations that anyone planning to build a cabin should think about. He has actually built a house somewhere between Berlin and Potsdam that aligns well with my approach; he mentions it on his website and in one of his books. He also seems to be a very genuine person, as he openly writes about why he eventually started his own construction company and just as openly explains why he closed it again a few years later.
As for Vogel: They renovated a classical villa on Gregor-Mendel-Straße in Potsdam with great attention to detail. For me, this house is absolutely outstanding. So if you are still looking for goals in life: that would be one. However, it must be said fairly that the micro-location (extremely dense neighboring buildings) is a real downside.
Matthias
Since the names "Ringlstetter" and "Vogel" have already come up: Ringlstetter is an extremely interesting source because his books focus on fundamentals and cover many important considerations that anyone planning to build a cabin should think about. He has actually built a house somewhere between Berlin and Potsdam that aligns well with my approach; he mentions it on his website and in one of his books. He also seems to be a very genuine person, as he openly writes about why he eventually started his own construction company and just as openly explains why he closed it again a few years later.
As for Vogel: They renovated a classical villa on Gregor-Mendel-Straße in Potsdam with great attention to detail. For me, this house is absolutely outstanding. So if you are still looking for goals in life: that would be one. However, it must be said fairly that the micro-location (extremely dense neighboring buildings) is a real downside.
Matthias
Oh, I’m following along here as well.
We are also imagining an authentic house, but on one hand less grand, and on the other hand actually just historic in style, because Jura-style houses feel a bit too dark for us 😉 If anything goes against "some kind of ethos," it’s those always identical white-anthracite-colored blocks, preferably surrounded by gabions and lit with cold white lights at Christmas *shiver* (Don’t take this seriously, everyone should build however they like 😉 )
Ringlstetter lived for a long time in my hometown, so there are quite a few Ringlstetter houses there. The clients are all enthusiastic about the house itself and the organization. If you want to build with them, you definitely have to be quick.
We are also imagining an authentic house, but on one hand less grand, and on the other hand actually just historic in style, because Jura-style houses feel a bit too dark for us 😉 If anything goes against "some kind of ethos," it’s those always identical white-anthracite-colored blocks, preferably surrounded by gabions and lit with cold white lights at Christmas *shiver* (Don’t take this seriously, everyone should build however they like 😉 )
Ringlstetter lived for a long time in my hometown, so there are quite a few Ringlstetter houses there. The clients are all enthusiastic about the house itself and the organization. If you want to build with them, you definitely have to be quick.
I don’t personally know anyone who has built this way, but I do know that the company Villa Belavista from Radebeul builds based on historical models. I am also impressed by their houses! We contacted them about six years ago, but unfortunately, they only build in the Dresden surrounding area.