Hello forum,
I have now read extensively, watched videos, and gathered quotes. Initially, I considered a door from OBI, but the standard size (110cm x 220cm (43 inches x 87 inches)) does not fit. In the end, I have narrowed it down to three suppliers:
1. Köster aluminum front door (only with the "Security Package 2," which adds over 300 euros extra): about 3200
2. Groke aluminum front door (standard RC2): about 2800
3. Hörmann "Thermosafe," currently a promotional front door, all features included, unlike the other two it has an overlapping sash (which I find more attractive, but wouldn’t otherwise pay the 500-euro premium). RC3. Price about 2950
All doors: no sidelights.
I believe I read here in the forum (and elsewhere) that Groke and Köster are good choices. Both doors have a depth of over 9cm (3.5 inches) and seem very solid. I am unsure about the Hörmann (depth 8cm (3 inches)). The Thermosafe is considered upper class, while the Thermocarbon is too expensive for me. Hörmann probably has the best insulation value and the highest security rating. But, as a sales manager told me yesterday: it’s a DIY store door you won’t find in specialist stores – and he dismissed it as cheap quality.
Inotherm, Bayerwald, and similar brands are out of consideration—simply too expensive.
The saying "Your front door is your business card" is useless for me because the whole external appearance doesn’t matter if the person behind the door is forgettable. After a short time (about two minutes), even the most beautiful front door can’t save you if the person makes you want to run away.
I like all the suggested doors. I’m looking for a tasteful door, but I don’t spend 15 minutes daily on a nice day in front of the door with a coffee in my hand admiring the artwork. So aesthetics are not a discussion point for me.
Wood is not an option.
Who here in the forum can share experience to help me with my decision? I would appreciate any tips.
I have now read extensively, watched videos, and gathered quotes. Initially, I considered a door from OBI, but the standard size (110cm x 220cm (43 inches x 87 inches)) does not fit. In the end, I have narrowed it down to three suppliers:
1. Köster aluminum front door (only with the "Security Package 2," which adds over 300 euros extra): about 3200
2. Groke aluminum front door (standard RC2): about 2800
3. Hörmann "Thermosafe," currently a promotional front door, all features included, unlike the other two it has an overlapping sash (which I find more attractive, but wouldn’t otherwise pay the 500-euro premium). RC3. Price about 2950
All doors: no sidelights.
I believe I read here in the forum (and elsewhere) that Groke and Köster are good choices. Both doors have a depth of over 9cm (3.5 inches) and seem very solid. I am unsure about the Hörmann (depth 8cm (3 inches)). The Thermosafe is considered upper class, while the Thermocarbon is too expensive for me. Hörmann probably has the best insulation value and the highest security rating. But, as a sales manager told me yesterday: it’s a DIY store door you won’t find in specialist stores – and he dismissed it as cheap quality.
Inotherm, Bayerwald, and similar brands are out of consideration—simply too expensive.
The saying "Your front door is your business card" is useless for me because the whole external appearance doesn’t matter if the person behind the door is forgettable. After a short time (about two minutes), even the most beautiful front door can’t save you if the person makes you want to run away.
I like all the suggested doors. I’m looking for a tasteful door, but I don’t spend 15 minutes daily on a nice day in front of the door with a coffee in my hand admiring the artwork. So aesthetics are not a discussion point for me.
Wood is not an option.
Who here in the forum can share experience to help me with my decision? I would appreciate any tips.
K1300S schrieb:
I have now seen a total of four promotional brochures from our door manufacturer, each from different years, that were completely identical except for the year. So this seems to be a common tactic of door manufacturers. A window specialist can’t live solely off first-time installations in new buildings, and especially the newspaper inserts or mail drops with daily post reach people in houses that are already finished. You walk through front doors every day, and they are the house’s calling card. But ordering a new one can easily be postponed day after day. Products with four-figure price tags don’t just end up in your shopping cart last minute like a chocolate bar at the checkout. A promotion—or better yet, a SALE, or even better, a BIG SALE!!!—can really help here ;-)
Besides, front doors are a product used to “hook” customers into finally replacing all their windows the year after next. Passing on the front door with almost no profit is therefore a popular sales strategy. That the brochures occasionally end up in the hands of new build customers—so what. At least they don’t have an old part to dispose of. For a window specialist, this is a regular event on the “church calendar.” We have it marked down as St. Türius *LOL*
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Schimi179122 Jan 2021 13:01Schimi1791 schrieb:
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The door is from HDE and costs about €1,500 more for a comparable model (profile thickness is even 20mm (0.8 inches) less) than the door from Köster—so around €6,500 (excluding installation).
...An inquiry revealed that the door with the same profile thickness as Köster would be almost €1,000 (!!) more expensive because the door hinges would need to be larger dimensioned. In that case, there would also be three hinges on the inside. The door from Köster apparently only has two.Schimi179122 Jan 2021 13:41Schimi1791 schrieb:
An inquiry revealed that a door with the same profile thickness as Köster would be almost €1,000 (!!) more expensive because larger hinges would also be required. However, that would mean having three hinges located on the inside, whereas Köster’s door apparently only has two.... so in total about €7,500 for the HDE door 😱
11ant schrieb:
That brochures sometimes end up in the hands of new construction customers – so what.The dealer basically revealed that information directly. 😉 But I found it interesting that from year to year, they only change the year on the brochure and leave everything else exactly the same. They could basically turn it into a standing offer... but that probably wouldn’t work well with the human psyche, which tends to value things based on their perceived scarcity.Scarcity (combined with an apparent special offer) is definitely one of the most powerful sales tools. It can be based on time or on a (supposedly) limited quantity. I deal with this in my job, and it’s really surprising how effective it is. Although I wouldn’t really count a scarcity limited to one year...