Hello forum,
I have now read extensively, watched videos, and gathered quotes. Initially, I considered a door from OBI, but the standard size (110cm x 220cm (43 inches x 87 inches)) does not fit. In the end, I have narrowed it down to three suppliers:
1. Köster aluminum front door (only with the "Security Package 2," which adds over 300 euros extra): about 3200
2. Groke aluminum front door (standard RC2): about 2800
3. Hörmann "Thermosafe," currently a promotional front door, all features included, unlike the other two it has an overlapping sash (which I find more attractive, but wouldn’t otherwise pay the 500-euro premium). RC3. Price about 2950
All doors: no sidelights.
I believe I read here in the forum (and elsewhere) that Groke and Köster are good choices. Both doors have a depth of over 9cm (3.5 inches) and seem very solid. I am unsure about the Hörmann (depth 8cm (3 inches)). The Thermosafe is considered upper class, while the Thermocarbon is too expensive for me. Hörmann probably has the best insulation value and the highest security rating. But, as a sales manager told me yesterday: it’s a DIY store door you won’t find in specialist stores – and he dismissed it as cheap quality.
Inotherm, Bayerwald, and similar brands are out of consideration—simply too expensive.
The saying "Your front door is your business card" is useless for me because the whole external appearance doesn’t matter if the person behind the door is forgettable. After a short time (about two minutes), even the most beautiful front door can’t save you if the person makes you want to run away.
I like all the suggested doors. I’m looking for a tasteful door, but I don’t spend 15 minutes daily on a nice day in front of the door with a coffee in my hand admiring the artwork. So aesthetics are not a discussion point for me.
Wood is not an option.
Who here in the forum can share experience to help me with my decision? I would appreciate any tips.
I have now read extensively, watched videos, and gathered quotes. Initially, I considered a door from OBI, but the standard size (110cm x 220cm (43 inches x 87 inches)) does not fit. In the end, I have narrowed it down to three suppliers:
1. Köster aluminum front door (only with the "Security Package 2," which adds over 300 euros extra): about 3200
2. Groke aluminum front door (standard RC2): about 2800
3. Hörmann "Thermosafe," currently a promotional front door, all features included, unlike the other two it has an overlapping sash (which I find more attractive, but wouldn’t otherwise pay the 500-euro premium). RC3. Price about 2950
All doors: no sidelights.
I believe I read here in the forum (and elsewhere) that Groke and Köster are good choices. Both doors have a depth of over 9cm (3.5 inches) and seem very solid. I am unsure about the Hörmann (depth 8cm (3 inches)). The Thermosafe is considered upper class, while the Thermocarbon is too expensive for me. Hörmann probably has the best insulation value and the highest security rating. But, as a sales manager told me yesterday: it’s a DIY store door you won’t find in specialist stores – and he dismissed it as cheap quality.
Inotherm, Bayerwald, and similar brands are out of consideration—simply too expensive.
The saying "Your front door is your business card" is useless for me because the whole external appearance doesn’t matter if the person behind the door is forgettable. After a short time (about two minutes), even the most beautiful front door can’t save you if the person makes you want to run away.
I like all the suggested doors. I’m looking for a tasteful door, but I don’t spend 15 minutes daily on a nice day in front of the door with a coffee in my hand admiring the artwork. So aesthetics are not a discussion point for me.
Wood is not an option.
Who here in the forum can share experience to help me with my decision? I would appreciate any tips.
Curly schrieb:
We have the “DIY store bargain door” from Hörmann and are very satisfied so far. Previously, we had a door from Biffar—very good quality but also very expensive. Now we have the Thermosafe from Hörmann; it does everything a door should, doesn’t stick, closes perfectly, and is very easy to wipe clean without streaks. We are also happy with the sound insulation—after one year, we have no complaints.
Best regards,
SabineHello Sabine,
I have made my decision.
I’ve been researching this topic for about a month, and even longer with some earlier searches.
I, too, will buy a “DIY store bargain door” from Hörmann.
The reason is simple: the price. And then the appearance.
Compared to everything else I examined, Hörmann offers me a lot for my money.
Of course, I’m sacrificing individuality (others offer extensive customization), especially regarding the appearance in various ways.
But I am the type of person who, like nearly everyone else, spends about 15 minutes daily outside from spring to autumn enjoying the view.
I also believe: you get used to everything, even what initially impresses you. Because in a shorter or longer time, it becomes normal.
What remains is the feeling of security. An energy-efficient door. And: a door that doesn’t warp (a pun, I know).
For example: in our house, we created a real eye-catcher. The first few days, it inspired me. After that, it pleased me, then I occasionally noticed: nice.
By now, I think: hmm, that was once accompanied by stronger emotions.
And that’s how it goes for everyone (even if they all claim otherwise).
Because the state of happiness is not psychologically sustainable (this is also proven). In terms of a door, this would also be regrettable for me (there are far more important things in life than a front door, for instance, partners and children come first).
So, what remains is the feeling that hopefully prevails permanently: that quality awaits at the entrance. The brand name doesn’t matter to me. Quality for me means: thermal insulation, security, reasonable appearance.
Thanks for the posts and help.
Fuhr manufactures motorized locks and automatic locks. I definitely wanted one like this because you can easily combine the access systems (they have remote controls and a fingerprint scanner). Additionally, you can open up to 4 doors or garage doors with the remotes. I think that's great, as I never carry a key. I couldn’t live without the fingerprint scanner anymore. I'm quite forgetful with keys...
Automatic lock – you should look up the manufacturer to see its features. For Fuhr, the difference is between Autotronic and Multitronic. The Autotronic is much cheaper and has fewer functions. With the Multitronic, it automatically locks when you close the door, and importantly, you can easily open the door from the inside using the handle without having to press any buttons. Normally, a fully locked door is secured, and when you want to go out, you have to turn the key several times. Since I’m very lazy, I would always just pull the door closed. That’s okay for a rental place, but not for a home you own. This way, the door is always locked, but you can still get out as if the door were “open.”
Also convenient is that the door has a power cable, for which I had a simple flat plug made. This allows me to power the lock through a standard outlet. Furthermore, the entire control system is built directly into the door, so I don’t need any extra control unit installed in a cabinet inside the wall. The door uses striker contacts. The customer service is also very good.
Also convenient is that the door has a power cable, for which I had a simple flat plug made. This allows me to power the lock through a standard outlet. Furthermore, the entire control system is built directly into the door, so I don’t need any extra control unit installed in a cabinet inside the wall. The door uses striker contacts. The customer service is also very good.
That’s all too technical for me.
The manufacturer states...
That’s why every one of our front doors leaves production equipped with a triple automatic locking system and a hinge system with lift protection.
P.S. You can’t be that lazy, aren’t you renovating a house yourself?
The manufacturer states...
That’s why every one of our front doors leaves production equipped with a triple automatic locking system and a hinge system with lift protection.
P.S. You can’t be that lazy, aren’t you renovating a house yourself?
Automatic Lock: When closing the door, additional “hooks” (similar to child safety locks on cabinets) are mechanically extended at the top and bottom. Simply put, it’s like a door with three latches. These hooks are then unlocked by a motor when opening the door, which can be controlled, for example, via an electric door opener or a fingerprint scanner. This offers slightly more security than a door that is just closed without locking.
Disadvantage: If the door is additionally locked with a key, the motor won’t work; you would need to unlock it first with the key.
Motorized Lock: When the door is closed, it is automatically locked by a motor and unlocked again when opened. Used together with a fingerprint scanner, remote control, or touch function (some may know this from cars), no house key is needed anymore. This is optimal in terms of security because the door is always locked.
Disadvantage: Costs around 1,000€ (about 2 to 3 times more expensive than an automatic lock).
Disadvantage: If the door is additionally locked with a key, the motor won’t work; you would need to unlock it first with the key.
Motorized Lock: When the door is closed, it is automatically locked by a motor and unlocked again when opened. Used together with a fingerprint scanner, remote control, or touch function (some may know this from cars), no house key is needed anymore. This is optimal in terms of security because the door is always locked.
Disadvantage: Costs around 1,000€ (about 2 to 3 times more expensive than an automatic lock).
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