Hi everyone,
while looking for hardwood flooring, we came across HQ parquet from Holzland. They finally have a style we really like, and the price is at least not totally out of range. Currently, we are looking at 47 € for wide plank flooring (185cm by 20cm (73 inches by 8 inches)) with a 4mm (0.16 inch) wear layer.
However, this product is only sold through timber merchants (which is actually a good sign), so it’s hard to find any reviews or experiences online.
So the question is: Has anyone installed it themselves, seen it at a friend’s place, or has any experience with it to share?
Best regards,
Andreas
while looking for hardwood flooring, we came across HQ parquet from Holzland. They finally have a style we really like, and the price is at least not totally out of range. Currently, we are looking at 47 € for wide plank flooring (185cm by 20cm (73 inches by 8 inches)) with a 4mm (0.16 inch) wear layer.
However, this product is only sold through timber merchants (which is actually a good sign), so it’s hard to find any reviews or experiences online.
So the question is: Has anyone installed it themselves, seen it at a friend’s place, or has any experience with it to share?
Best regards,
Andreas
Hello Andreas,
I don’t think it is justified to dismiss it as “stuff” here or anywhere else.
We are discussing a mid-range multilayer parquet flooring.
What use would additional experiences be?
Every situation where problems occur is somehow different.
Who could know this better than I do?
Even at HOLZLAND, parquet materials are offered that MUST meet the requirements of DIN EN 13489.
General advice from unverifiable internet sources is not suitable to form an objective and therefore useful assessment of a product.
So focus primarily on the technical properties, such as the locking system between the elements and the classification of the application area.
Everything is indicated on the packaging; clearly legible, sometimes also as symbols.
This should take precedence over any “experiences,” whose backgrounds mostly remain unclear.
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Regards, KlaRa
I don’t think it is justified to dismiss it as “stuff” here or anywhere else.
We are discussing a mid-range multilayer parquet flooring.
What use would additional experiences be?
Every situation where problems occur is somehow different.
Who could know this better than I do?
Even at HOLZLAND, parquet materials are offered that MUST meet the requirements of DIN EN 13489.
General advice from unverifiable internet sources is not suitable to form an objective and therefore useful assessment of a product.
So focus primarily on the technical properties, such as the locking system between the elements and the classification of the application area.
Everything is indicated on the packaging; clearly legible, sometimes also as symbols.
This should take precedence over any “experiences,” whose backgrounds mostly remain unclear.
--------------
Regards, KlaRa
Hi,
just a general feedback. In the end, we chose the parquet since the price was just under €40 (about $43) per unit.
We really like it, but the quality of the locking system is just okay. The installer was only lukewarm about it. He said it’s mid-range, fine, but not outstanding. Basically, what you’d expect for the price. He usually installs floors that cost about twice as much.
So overall, everything was okay, but:
There was and still is a major issue with the dealer/manufacturer:
We ordered and paid for 400 / 1865*189 mm (about 73.4*7.4 inches) planks, as listed on the invoice. So, 400 country-style planks.
They delivered 50 packages with 8 / 1865*189 mm planks each, so 8 planks per package.
The surprise was that in EVERY package, 2 of the 8 layers were not one long plank of 186.5 cm (73.4 inches) but instead two 93 cm (about 36.6 inches) planks. Not broken, but deliberate.
So, every package contained 6 long and 4 short planks instead of 8 long planks!
This obviously caused a huge problem with the laying pattern. We set most of the short planks aside. We used some to outfit a walk-in closet and a few in a hallway. The rest is leftover and we ran out of material for the guest room.
I don’t want to complain too loudly yet. The dealer indicates that we can reach a reasonable agreement, but initially they argued that this is normal and that all manufacturers do it this way, etc. According to my installer, this is complete nonsense; he has never seen anything like this.
It is of course fine in principle that there are half planks. That can actually be a good solution in certain situations. But just pushing this on the customer without notice is more than cheeky!
Therefore the question:
Are there other manufacturers that do something like this? And can you really justify it “by the layer”? I.e., the layer still measures 1865*189 mm (73.4*7.4 inches), right?
In my view, even if this layer-wise splitting were common in the industry, it would not save the dealer in this case. The invoice explicitly states 400 / 1865*189 mm planks. That clearly means 400 pieces, period.
And even if such a layer-by-layer packaging was “industry standard,” they would have to inform me in writing as a layperson.
If they don’t act reasonably, I’d consider this borderline “legally questionable business conduct.”
We were, however, very impressed with the laminate flooring from Holzland. We installed it in the basement and it’s really great!
Best regards,
Andreas
just a general feedback. In the end, we chose the parquet since the price was just under €40 (about $43) per unit.
We really like it, but the quality of the locking system is just okay. The installer was only lukewarm about it. He said it’s mid-range, fine, but not outstanding. Basically, what you’d expect for the price. He usually installs floors that cost about twice as much.
So overall, everything was okay, but:
There was and still is a major issue with the dealer/manufacturer:
We ordered and paid for 400 / 1865*189 mm (about 73.4*7.4 inches) planks, as listed on the invoice. So, 400 country-style planks.
They delivered 50 packages with 8 / 1865*189 mm planks each, so 8 planks per package.
The surprise was that in EVERY package, 2 of the 8 layers were not one long plank of 186.5 cm (73.4 inches) but instead two 93 cm (about 36.6 inches) planks. Not broken, but deliberate.
So, every package contained 6 long and 4 short planks instead of 8 long planks!
This obviously caused a huge problem with the laying pattern. We set most of the short planks aside. We used some to outfit a walk-in closet and a few in a hallway. The rest is leftover and we ran out of material for the guest room.
I don’t want to complain too loudly yet. The dealer indicates that we can reach a reasonable agreement, but initially they argued that this is normal and that all manufacturers do it this way, etc. According to my installer, this is complete nonsense; he has never seen anything like this.
It is of course fine in principle that there are half planks. That can actually be a good solution in certain situations. But just pushing this on the customer without notice is more than cheeky!
Therefore the question:
Are there other manufacturers that do something like this? And can you really justify it “by the layer”? I.e., the layer still measures 1865*189 mm (73.4*7.4 inches), right?
In my view, even if this layer-wise splitting were common in the industry, it would not save the dealer in this case. The invoice explicitly states 400 / 1865*189 mm planks. That clearly means 400 pieces, period.
And even if such a layer-by-layer packaging was “industry standard,” they would have to inform me in writing as a layperson.
If they don’t act reasonably, I’d consider this borderline “legally questionable business conduct.”
We were, however, very impressed with the laminate flooring from Holzland. We installed it in the basement and it’s really great!
Best regards,
Andreas
Hello Andreas,
If you ordered parquet boards measuring 1865 x 189 mm (73.4 x 7.4 inches) with 8 boards per package, then the boards you pay for must correspond to these dimensions!
It is quite possible that you plan to install the parquet in a "English bond" pattern. In this pattern, every second row’s end joints should align. However, this is not possible with the delivered sizes, and it cannot be achieved with a mix of different lengths.
Regardless of the dealer’s argument, you would have had to refuse installation and inspect the entire delivery, returning any packages containing defective or unordered materials.
The same applies to both end users and professional installers: once they take possession of the goods or a preceding trade’s work, both warranty and risk transfer to them.
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Regards, KlaRa
If you ordered parquet boards measuring 1865 x 189 mm (73.4 x 7.4 inches) with 8 boards per package, then the boards you pay for must correspond to these dimensions!
It is quite possible that you plan to install the parquet in a "English bond" pattern. In this pattern, every second row’s end joints should align. However, this is not possible with the delivered sizes, and it cannot be achieved with a mix of different lengths.
Regardless of the dealer’s argument, you would have had to refuse installation and inspect the entire delivery, returning any packages containing defective or unordered materials.
The same applies to both end users and professional installers: once they take possession of the goods or a preceding trade’s work, both warranty and risk transfer to them.
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Regards, KlaRa
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Reini123411 Jun 2019 08:41@andimann
May I revisit this thread to ask about your long-term experience with the HQ parquet flooring? Would you choose it again? Any drawbacks or loss of quality? Did you have it glued down?
May I revisit this thread to ask about your long-term experience with the HQ parquet flooring? Would you choose it again? Any drawbacks or loss of quality? Did you have it glued down?
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