ᐅ Do radiators always need to be installed under windows in new constructions?

Created on: 26 May 2022 19:39
R
Rumbi441
Hello,

we are currently planning and looking to reduce costs by replacing the underfloor heating with regular radiators. However, we do not want to place them in front of the windows. This raises the question: Is it necessary in a new timber frame construction to install the radiators below the windows, or is it equally effective to position them elsewhere in the room? The size of each room is under 30 sqm (320 sq ft), and the windows are triple-glazed. We are not building according to KfW standards, but the carpenter mentioned that due to the wood construction, the walls are thick and well insulated.

Do you have any experience with this?
D
Deliverer
27 May 2022 09:28
bauenmk2020 schrieb:

Exhaust air heat pumps not an option?
I would say they never really were an option. Except perhaps in passive houses.
D
Deliverer
27 May 2022 09:33
hanse987 schrieb:

Heat pump, gas, …
… or dried camel dung? ;-)
I don’t think new construction projects nowadays are still being built with gas if the builder knows how to use the internet. Gas storage is running low, many providers no longer offer new contracts, and the gas network is being dismantled. Then you need an additional chimney, connection, and a flue gas system on the roof, only to end up paying as much for maintenance and chimney sweeps as heating with a small heat pump would cost. I don’t think so.
D
driver55
27 May 2022 09:43
Rumbi441 schrieb:

We are worried that the underfloor heating might develop a leak, which would require replacement in 10 years.

First it’s about the cost, then it's about leaks… what’s the next “argument”?

Is there even a cost breakdown or a quote, or how do you know that you would save €2793 (about $3000) by not having underfloor heating?
Y
ypg
27 May 2022 10:44
bauenmk2020 schrieb:

Are window recesses still common in new buildings?

No. I also recall that they are often bricked up when a house is modernized, meaning renovated with underfloor heating and so on.
Rumbi441 schrieb:

We would prefer not to install (or have installed) a screed floor in any form. We are afraid the underfloor heating pipes could leak and that something would have to be replaced after 10 years.

I can’t fully accept that “argument.” What about running water? Or an electrical cable that might be accidentally drilled into and cause a fire years later? Do you want everything installed with surface-mounted conduits? Some fears are irrational and hard to understand.
In the end, a leak would just be an insurance claim—and a good opportunity to replace your floor covering.
O
OutcastNRW
27 May 2022 10:45
Rumbi441 schrieb:

We are worried that the underfloor heating might have a leak and that something will need to be replaced in 10 years.
Underfloor heating pipes are laid continuously. At least, there are no screw, compression, or press fittings that could leak. The likelihood of a pipe lying quietly beneath the screed suddenly developing a leak is practically zero. If leaks do occur, it is usually because a tradesperson made a mistake and damaged the pipe — but then it wouldn’t take 10 years; it would be noticed during heating tests in the construction phase.
11ant27 May 2022 12:27
Pinkiponk schrieb:

Since we, even though we are building a very ordinary house, have partly deviated from the mainstream;

I doubt it’s just my eyesight that I haven’t noticed any deviations from the mainstream so far. Your initial plans disappointed me a lot, and up until now I only have hopes in the landscaping that something might still come. When we once talked here about fascias or other window surrounds, I was already looking forward to helping you design a nice facade. But then unfortunately nothing came of it—just the usual plain, unadorned rectangular cutouts in the simple wall, except vanilla instead of white. So far, unfortunately, all I see is standard issue zero eight fifteen point zero zero zero zero one :-(
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/