Hello everyone,
I have just started reading up on the topic of building a house, even though the desire to do so is still quite vague at the moment. This is more likely to be a project for the next five years. I feel like I’ve already spent dozens of hours here in the forum 🙂
Right now, I’m trying to get a sense of what makes a house expensive, which things are energy inefficient, and so on. That’s why I’m interested in whether there are any general guidelines for comparison.
Disclaimer: I understand that it always depends on the individual situation. Nevertheless, I could imagine that some rough rules of thumb have become established.
One more disclaimer: I am not trying to plan the cheapest possible house. Nor do I want to optimize every decision solely for KfW standards (I don’t even know yet whether I want or need KfW certification).
I’m just trying to get a feel for how building decisions influence cost and energy efficiency. After all, I don’t want to plan something completely unrealistic. When it gets more concrete, of course, I’ll consult an architect.
Until then, I want to build some background knowledge.
Thank you & best regards from the cave.
I have just started reading up on the topic of building a house, even though the desire to do so is still quite vague at the moment. This is more likely to be a project for the next five years. I feel like I’ve already spent dozens of hours here in the forum 🙂
Right now, I’m trying to get a sense of what makes a house expensive, which things are energy inefficient, and so on. That’s why I’m interested in whether there are any general guidelines for comparison.
Disclaimer: I understand that it always depends on the individual situation. Nevertheless, I could imagine that some rough rules of thumb have become established.
- First of all, I would like to know: how does a bungalow compare to a house with two full stories? (In terms of costs and the effort to achieve a KfW standard). My youthful recklessness tells me that a bungalow is cheaper to build but more expensive to insulate because of the larger ground/exterior surface area.
- The same question applies to a two-story house compared to a 1.5-story house (I know, that doesn’t really exist ;-) ) with knee walls but no attic. An attic is certainly great for storage, but initially it’s dead space that requires an additional intermediate ceiling and more exterior surface area.
- Also, I like the idea of an L-shaped (living room) layout with a terrace nestled inside the inner corner. Does deviating from a cubic shape significantly affect the price? I would assume that especially if aiming for KfW standards, this could get tricky because corners are presumably complex to insulate. Or are these just minor issues?
- The same question comes up regarding dormers and possibly a third or fourth gable.
- How much does the roof pitch affect price and energy efficiency? (My assumption: a flatter roof uses less material and also exposes less surface area).
One more disclaimer: I am not trying to plan the cheapest possible house. Nor do I want to optimize every decision solely for KfW standards (I don’t even know yet whether I want or need KfW certification).
I’m just trying to get a feel for how building decisions influence cost and energy efficiency. After all, I don’t want to plan something completely unrealistic. When it gets more concrete, of course, I’ll consult an architect.
Until then, I want to build some background knowledge.
Thank you & best regards from the cave.
M
motorradsilke17 Aug 2021 11:49Höhlenbewohner schrieb:
To continue with the analogy: the goal is not to buy the cheapest car but to understand which additional features drive up the price and to better assess their cost-benefit ratio. However, this can change completely within five years. Or you may receive different information from various contractors. For example, we obtained several quotes—sometimes a hip roof was cheaper, sometimes a gable roof, and sometimes both cost about the same.
And as mentioned before, you cannot build every house design on every plot of land. With small plots (which are the only ones still available or affordable), you quickly reach the limits of what is possible with a bungalow.
For the record: I abstain from voting here.
A house requires a plot of land, but a plot is always specific and rarely allows for all theoretical possibilities.
Also, this is once again a post without a completed questionnaire.
Conclusion: 0 land, 0 questionnaire. Three times zero is zero; zero remains zero, and you cannot divide by zero. End of story.
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A house requires a plot of land, but a plot is always specific and rarely allows for all theoretical possibilities.
Also, this is once again a post without a completed questionnaire.
Conclusion: 0 land, 0 questionnaire. Three times zero is zero; zero remains zero, and you cannot divide by zero. End of story.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Höhlenbewohner schrieb:
To continue with the analogy: The goal is not to buy the cheapest car but to understand which optional features drive up the price and to better evaluate their cost-benefit ratio. However, there are many vehicles with endless optional equipment lists that are still significantly cheaper than some base models.
So, what’s the point when it comes to choosing or making a decision?
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Höhlenbewohner17 Aug 2021 12:3011ant schrieb:
Also, this is once again a post without a completed questionnaire.
Conclusion: 0 plot, 0 questionnaire. Three times zero is zero, and you cannot divide by zero. End of story. You seem to have posted in the wrong section of the forum. This is not the floor plan / plot planning area, but the general questions section.
Which questionnaire are you referring to?
Höhlenbewohner schrieb:
It seems you are in the wrong section of the forum; this is not the Floor Plan / Site Planning area but the General Questions section.
Which questionnaire are you referring to? Oh, sorry, I just joined yesterday :-(
Well, of course I mean THAT questionnaire at the top of the floor plan section. I definitely don’t mean the questionnaire from the FAZ magazine here. The one from Yvonne can be filled out even without having a site – if necessary, you can skip some questions. I’m male, 53, without children – I already know that from my current rental apartment. Always these know-it-alls.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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HausTmMike17 Aug 2021 19:45Höhlenbewohner schrieb:
It's a matter of opinion.
I find it quite useful to know how much "extra requests" actually affect the price.
Since no reliable, universally valid figures can be expected here, at best you get qualitative statements or rough rules of thumb, which is only natural.
My four dormers, which are not small but set back into the roof, ended up costing around 30k. But it was worth it to me.
A standard gable dormer, including roof structure, roofing, insulation, window, exterior insulation and cladding, interior insulation, and drywall, costs about 8,000–12,000 (dollars) as a rough guideline.