ᐅ Controlled ventilation system in a bungalow: Is it necessary to lower the ceiling?

Created on: 5 Jul 2019 18:51
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Reluctance
Hello everyone,

We are currently finalizing the building permit / planning permission application for our construction project (a bungalow with 135 sqm (1453 sq ft)). We would like to have a ventilation system installed in our bungalow. In this context, our general contractor (GC) recently approached us and said that the ceiling would need to be lowered to install the ventilation system. This means we would have to increase the room height, and this must be taken into account in the building permit / planning application.

There are several issues with this whole process:
  • The GC’s subcontractor installs only Zewotherm systems; the cost estimate is 18,000 euros. On top of that, there would be additional costs for increasing the room height. From what I read here, in other forums, and hear from acquaintances, the cost for a ventilation system (e.g., Zehnder or Vaillant) including installation is more around 12k. (We originally thought we would have to build a one-and-a-half-story house; in that case, the Zewotherm system was even offered to us for 23k.)
  • We do not want a Zewotherm system but prefer Zehnder (Vaillant would also be possible) – so now we have to find a suitable contractor ourselves who installs Zehnder systems.
  • We don’t understand why the ceiling must be lowered to install a ventilation system in a bungalow. Has anyone had experience with this? Is it always necessary to lower the ceiling? What if the system is installed in the floor? Would the floor then need to be raised? I’m afraid our GC simply doesn’t really know much about ventilation systems... but maybe I’m wrong.

So: Has anyone installed a ventilation system in a bungalow without lowering the ceiling?
Mycraft6 Jul 2019 11:40
Or directly on the subfloor and into the walls. There are various options. Suspending the ceiling is not necessarily the most cost-effective, but it is relatively straightforward to install.
Golfi9010 Jul 2019 20:45
We will also have a mechanical ventilation system with heat recovery in our townhouse. Additionally, our house will have a cold roof...

I’m curious to see how it will be implemented in our case...
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Reluctance
10 Jul 2019 21:09
Golfi90 schrieb:

We are also getting a mechanical ventilation system with heat recovery in our townhouse. And we have a cold roof as well...

I’m curious to see how it will be installed in our case...

It would go into the intermediate ceiling – so into the precast concrete slab – and then concrete is poured over it or something like that. Others here can probably explain the details better.

Today we visited a company that installs Zehnder systems at a reasonable price. They would install it for us using flat ducts in the floor... now we just need to make sure the general contractor and the company coordinate with each other, and then we will still get the ventilation system we want...
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micric3
13 Jul 2019 13:26
Since we are facing similar decisions, here is a fundamental question. Why do you choose not to use a decentralized ventilation system? According to documentation, these systems are now very efficient (85-95% heat recovery) and operate very quietly at 20-25 dB.
Mycraft13 Jul 2019 13:32
but only according to the paperwork...
11ant13 Jul 2019 14:47
Reluctance schrieb:

So we would need to increase the ceiling height
If I recall correctly, you found the lintels to be too "high"—this issue could actually be turned into an advantage by discreetly boxing in the ducts with drywall, similar to commercial kitchen construction.
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