ᐅ Building with Cross-Laminated Timber (CLT) – Who has experience with this?

Created on: 19 Jun 2018 14:30
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AnNaHF79
Hello,

after several meetings with architects, the topic of wood construction—specifically using cross-laminated timber (CLT) panels (Züblin Timber Leno was mentioned)—has now come up.

Until now, we had primarily considered solid masonry (brick) construction but don’t want to completely rule out this option.

We have done some research and found a lot of positive information.

- Very high thermal insulation
- Excellent indoor climate due to vapor permeability
- Very ecological construction method
- Faster construction time

Fire safety does not seem to be a serious concern.
Water damage and pest infestation also appear to be minimal with this construction method.

Does anyone have experience with cross-laminated timber construction, especially compared to building with materials like brick or Poroton?

Thank you.

Best regards
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HilfeHilfe
20 Jun 2018 07:55
The boards reminded me of the Caribbean cruise last year.

Interesting thread here
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haydee
20 Jun 2018 10:21
@ Hilfehilfe
You won’t see the “boards” unless you order an exposed finish everywhere.
And who wants a cabin look 365 days a year?
Besides, with a 15cm (6 inch) interior wall, 20cm (8 inch) exterior wall, and 25cm (10 inch) ceiling, it’s no longer really about boards.

@ AnNaHf
I’m not criticizing the building material. I just don’t have rose-colored glasses when it comes to ecology and vapor permeability (almost every timber frame builder claims this).

You might only meet the energy saving regulations with the wall, possibly combined with solar. Maybe KfW 55 (which gets quite expensive). KfW 44 or Passive House standards are not achievable. The exterior side needs some form of protection, either plaster or a type of stain.
11ant20 Jun 2018 13:44
haydee schrieb:
You don’t see the “boards” unless you specifically choose an exposed finish everywhere.
And who would want a cabin look 365 days a year.

But still – maybe except for wet rooms – you would want to show the material, right?
Why would you choose wood only to cover it with plaster just as you would with stone?
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haydee
20 Jun 2018 14:32
Wood ceilings, wooden walls, wood floors, wooden doors, wooden furniture
is not my thing. Wooden furniture, wood floors, and wooden doors are enough.
By the way, the painting company told me they regularly cover and repaint visible wooden walls because the homeowners get tired of seeing so much wood.

Why do people still choose it?
Because the regional general contractors working with solid timber made a fuss like *beep*.

Very high precision fit thanks to CNC milling. This results in excellent blower door test values (0.35 after moving in). Clean 90° angles, slots for cables and such are included exactly as shown in the plans.

We wouldn’t have been allowed to build timber stud walls on the slope like that. Either a solid stone foundation or retaining wall with at least 1 meter (3 feet) distance required.

You can hang things anywhere on the walls. You won’t damage the vapor barrier, and you don’t have to make sure you hit a stud.

Because the architect/general contractor came, sat down with pencil and graph paper in our living room, and understood us. He had visited the site beforehand.

Whether it is actually much faster than building stone on stone is currently questionable. In 2015, delivery time was 2 weeks after submitting the shop drawings; in 2017, delivery time was 11 weeks despite outsourcing.
We were the first with Lithuanian trucks.
11ant20 Jun 2018 14:56
haydee schrieb:
Because the architect/main contractor came, sat down in our living room with a pencil and graph paper, and understood us.

A line for the poetry album of every house-in-the-computer assembler
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