Hello everyone,
I hope to gather some experience here.
We are currently planning our own construction project in Rhineland-Palatinate. We would like to use the KfW 300 program with QNG certification to receive the €220,000 grant. The plot of land is already secured. We had a consultation with Hanse Haus, and I have to say I was shocked by the price: €580,000 for 160 m² (1,722 sq ft) turnkey. The consultant said they can only offer a custom design because it involves boundary line construction. According to him, we ourselves cannot do anything to meet the QNG certification except some minor painting work. He calculated roughly €3,000 per m² (approx. $280 per sq ft).
Additional construction-related costs are estimated at €30,000, the garage at €10,000 (does this need to be included in the cost breakdown?), and the garden also at €10,000 (which the consultant said must likewise be included in the cost estimate).
Does anyone have experience with similar projects or can recommend another provider? We are currently still waiting for a quote from Massa Haus. The price is definitely too high for us, and with that, the subsidy doesn’t really make sense.
I would really appreciate any responses and help.
Best regards,
Leon
I hope to gather some experience here.
We are currently planning our own construction project in Rhineland-Palatinate. We would like to use the KfW 300 program with QNG certification to receive the €220,000 grant. The plot of land is already secured. We had a consultation with Hanse Haus, and I have to say I was shocked by the price: €580,000 for 160 m² (1,722 sq ft) turnkey. The consultant said they can only offer a custom design because it involves boundary line construction. According to him, we ourselves cannot do anything to meet the QNG certification except some minor painting work. He calculated roughly €3,000 per m² (approx. $280 per sq ft).
Additional construction-related costs are estimated at €30,000, the garage at €10,000 (does this need to be included in the cost breakdown?), and the garden also at €10,000 (which the consultant said must likewise be included in the cost estimate).
Does anyone have experience with similar projects or can recommend another provider? We are currently still waiting for a quote from Massa Haus. The price is definitely too high for us, and with that, the subsidy doesn’t really make sense.
I would really appreciate any responses and help.
Best regards,
Leon
Hmm, you could also call that a defensive offer.
Is there already a (rough) plan for this project, or was it estimated based on intuition and guesswork?
What exactly does boundary development mean? Built right on the property line, or an extension attached to the neighboring building?
Is there already a (rough) plan for this project, or was it estimated based on intuition and guesswork?
What exactly does boundary development mean? Built right on the property line, or an extension attached to the neighboring building?
Rübe1 schrieb:
Hmm, you could also call that a counteroffer.Nonsense, why would that be? The 3000 per square meter (approximately 279 per square foot) is currently the usual rate for standard equipment without any bells and whistles. But this original poster probably wants more than standard with QNG. Accordingly, the offer is rather reasonable. Besides, we don’t know the other special requests yet.Rübe1 schrieb:
Hmm, you could also call that a defensive offer.
Is there already a rough plan for this project, or was it set more by gut feeling and estimation?
It was more by gut feeling. A formal offer is still supposed to be sent to me.
What does building on the boundary mean? Built right on the boundary line, or an extension to the neighbor’s building?Yes, directly on the boundary. Currently, there is an old barn on the property with a 3m (10 feet) distance to the neighbor. That means we are not allowed to build any windows facing that direction. After that, he put the QNQ Line catalog aside and said we can forget about that. What I also found strange was that in our initial meeting, he said we have to sign by the end of April, otherwise prices will increase from May 1st.
Thank you for your response.
K a t j a schrieb:
That’s nonsense, why would that be? The 3000 per sqm (3000 per sq ft) is currently the usual rate for standard equipment without any extras. But this original poster probably wants more than standard with QNG. Accordingly, the offer is rather reasonable. Besides, we don’t know any of the other extra requests yet. Hello Katja, thanks for your input.
So far, there have been hardly any extra requests.
Would you say the price is fair and justified?
K a t j a schrieb:
That’s nonsense, why do you say that? The current standard rate is around 3000 per square meter (approximately 280 per square foot) for standard features without any extras. But this original poster probably wants more than the standard with QNG. So the offer is actually quite reasonable. Besides, we don’t know about the other extra requests yet. Just because you can’t imagine it doesn’t mean your opinion is correct. If you knew what I do, you wouldn’t react like that. Believe me, I know what I’m talking about.
And if I tell you that you can also get QNG for 2500, you can trust me on that.