ᐅ Land Plot Lottery – How to Make the Ideal Preliminary Selection
Created on: 21 Feb 2022 14:01
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familie_s
Hello everyone,
In our municipality (Bavaria), plots of land will soon be allocated again based on social criteria. We already participated in a lottery process once, where we ranked 7th out of 6 available plots, so we expect better chances this time.
The allocation procedure was originally planned for the turn of the year 2021/2022 and is supposed to start "as soon as possible."
The development plan is not yet legally binding, so I am providing some data from a comparable residential area in the same municipality from this year.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: see our estimate in the photo
Slope: yes, contour lines are marked
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Number of parking spaces: 2 parking spaces per residential unit
Number of stories: Basement + Ground floor + Attic or 1/2 stories + Attic
Roof type: symmetrical gable and hipped roofs with a central ridge as well as shed roofs with slopes between 20° and 35°
Maximum heights/limits: Wall height max. 6.5 m (eaves side, from top edge of ground floor ceiling)
Additional information:
To the east is the local primary school right next to the site; about 350 m (380 yards) away is a biogas plant (without district heating connection); the main village road is to the south. About 800 m (875 yards) further south is the next state road.
Since the application windows are always relatively short, we want to be well prepared for the application phase and select the best three plots. I am especially interested in your opinions. We already received great feedback on a similar topic from @Melinaaa.
Initially, we favored plot number 4 because it is the highest, largest, and has little frontage on the public road. Unfortunately, we have not yet found a creative way to place a house here in a practical manner. On our site visits, we haven’t come across any houses that are nicely and logically accessed from the south. The only option we can currently imagine is to place the parking spaces behind the house—in the north.
Plot number 1 is also nicely elevated and, due to the adjoining public green space, could visually give the impression of having more land than you actually own (and pay for). Again, the disadvantage is that the driveway is from below.
Plot number 8 also benefits from the adjacent green space, but it has a large street frontage and is situated lower.
We had not considered plot number 9 before, fearing it might be shaded by the fire station, but the current plans show the fire station building integrates quite low into the slope.
Plots number 5 and 6 receive significant shade from the existing buildings to the south.
Which plots would you choose?
What haven’t we thought about? Retaining walls, drainage?
In our municipality (Bavaria), plots of land will soon be allocated again based on social criteria. We already participated in a lottery process once, where we ranked 7th out of 6 available plots, so we expect better chances this time.
The allocation procedure was originally planned for the turn of the year 2021/2022 and is supposed to start "as soon as possible."
The development plan is not yet legally binding, so I am providing some data from a comparable residential area in the same municipality from this year.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: see our estimate in the photo
Slope: yes, contour lines are marked
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Number of parking spaces: 2 parking spaces per residential unit
Number of stories: Basement + Ground floor + Attic or 1/2 stories + Attic
Roof type: symmetrical gable and hipped roofs with a central ridge as well as shed roofs with slopes between 20° and 35°
Maximum heights/limits: Wall height max. 6.5 m (eaves side, from top edge of ground floor ceiling)
Additional information:
To the east is the local primary school right next to the site; about 350 m (380 yards) away is a biogas plant (without district heating connection); the main village road is to the south. About 800 m (875 yards) further south is the next state road.
Since the application windows are always relatively short, we want to be well prepared for the application phase and select the best three plots. I am especially interested in your opinions. We already received great feedback on a similar topic from @Melinaaa.
Initially, we favored plot number 4 because it is the highest, largest, and has little frontage on the public road. Unfortunately, we have not yet found a creative way to place a house here in a practical manner. On our site visits, we haven’t come across any houses that are nicely and logically accessed from the south. The only option we can currently imagine is to place the parking spaces behind the house—in the north.
Plot number 1 is also nicely elevated and, due to the adjoining public green space, could visually give the impression of having more land than you actually own (and pay for). Again, the disadvantage is that the driveway is from below.
Plot number 8 also benefits from the adjacent green space, but it has a large street frontage and is situated lower.
We had not considered plot number 9 before, fearing it might be shaded by the fire station, but the current plans show the fire station building integrates quite low into the slope.
Plots number 5 and 6 receive significant shade from the existing buildings to the south.
Which plots would you choose?
What haven’t we thought about? Retaining walls, drainage?
familie_s schrieb:
We have to name 3 favorites, So, have you done your homework yet: what are the official rules of the lottery and how will it be conducted?
After all, we’re not dealing with something like a “6 out of 49” lottery, where there can be several or even many winning tickets in one category; you really need to understand thoroughly how it works. I don’t see any room for relaxed naivety here – or have you, as long-term applicants, already reached a state of apathy?
Have we even clarified by what ratio the applicant list is oversubscribed, and is it already closed, or can someone still rush into the polling station at 5:59 pm?
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11ant schrieb:
So, have you done your homework yet: what are the rules of the lottery and how does it work?
We’re not exactly dealing with something like “6 out of 49,” where there can be several or even many winning tickets in a single class; here, you really have to understand the system thoroughly. I don’t see any room for relaxed naivety – or as long-term applicants, have you already reached the apathetic phase?
Have we even clarified by how much the applicant list is oversubscribed, and is it already closed or can someone still rush into the polling station at 5:59 pm? I can only speak for the latest procedure and will attach the most recent allocation guidelines.
In #9 I mistakenly described the procedure from the previous process (neighboring municipality).
The applicant list is huge, and although the call for applications is only posted on the church door and not published online, many outsiders already tried last time as well. The applicant list has not yet been opened, but in true 11ant Barthel style, we have at least identified some fellow interested parties. Two couples have certainly overtaken us in terms of points because they each added 12 points, but they all want to build in the other development area to be closer to their beloved four rings. Otherwise, I see us doing well in the points ranking.
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WilderSueden22 Feb 2022 13:16So I understand the process, the list is worked through from top to bottom. If both preferred plots are already taken, the process stops, and the applicant can choose one of the remaining ones. Then it continues.
That would mean you don’t have any disadvantage by indicating the two most popular plots.
That would mean you don’t have any disadvantage by indicating the two most popular plots.
familie_s schrieb:
And even though the call for bids is only posted on the church gate and not published online, many outsiders already tried last time as well. [...] Two couples definitely surpassed us in points because they each gained 12 additional points, but they all want to build in the other development area, Are outsiders only considered as backups, or could locals also be outscored?
What is the other development area — is it scheduled at the same time or close to the plot allocation discussed here?
WilderSueden schrieb:
I understand the process as going down the list from top to bottom. That’s how I understand it too: that the ranking by applicant points determines the order in which one can choose.
WilderSueden schrieb:
That would mean you have no disadvantage if you indicate the two most popular plots. If you are among the top three applicants, in extreme cases you could name only preferred plots (and no fallback option). And everyone listed in the "visible" positions will be considered, at worst getting the "least preferred" plot. That sounds good so far. Well then, good luck with that!
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11ant schrieb:
Are outsiders only considered as replacements, or could the locals also be outscored? In theory, outsiders could actually outscore the locals as well.
11ant schrieb:
What about the other development area – would that be scheduled at the same time or shortly after the allocation for the one discussed here? Originally, the allocation was planned to be roughly simultaneous. But looking at the current progress with infrastructure and site development, the other development area will probably come earlier.
11ant schrieb:
That sounds good so far. Well then, good luck with it! Thank you! 🙂