ᐅ Commissioning a photovoltaic system and charging an electric vehicle.
Created on: 8 Jul 2021 09:37
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Stefan2.84
Hello everyone,
Our photovoltaic system is scheduled to be put into operation soon. I have several questions related to this topic and hope to get some helpful ideas.
1. I am currently dealing with all the tax paperwork. Monthly VAT returns through Elster and so on seem relatively straightforward. Still, does anyone have a link, guide, or website that explains this topic clearly for beginners?
2. The topic of one or two meters for household and heat pump has come up here several times. For now, I have decided to stick with two meters. Since ideally, I want to power both the heating and household with the photovoltaic system, the PV vendor recommended a "power to heat" setup. Does anyone have experience with this and can offer advice? The electrician who will install the system soon was more cautious and wanted to cover only household electricity with the PV system. Which is better?
3. Now, this is a bit off-topic: Since my car has broken down, I am considering getting an electric vehicle. Does anyone have experience with how well charging an EV through the photovoltaic system works? In winter, of course, it’s probably less effective since the car won’t be at home during the day. The wallbox is already ordered. However, I am still unsure whether this makes sense. The car would stay in the garage continuously on weekends, so there should be enough hours to have it fully charged by Monday.
4. Now this is even more off-topic: Since house construction and the upcoming outdoor landscaping are costly, an unplanned vehicle purchase hurts the budget a bit. Since I want to keep my reserves untouched, I’m considering leasing an electric car. Thanks to environmental incentives, the monthly costs should be relatively low. I had an appointment at a dealership yesterday. When I compare their offer with those online, there are sometimes very large differences. Common leasing platforms also offer deals from dealerships, but often cheaper than the local dealer. Does anyone know why there are such differences and whether online offers are reliable? Has anyone leased a car online?
Thanks and best regards
Stefan2.84
Our photovoltaic system is scheduled to be put into operation soon. I have several questions related to this topic and hope to get some helpful ideas.
1. I am currently dealing with all the tax paperwork. Monthly VAT returns through Elster and so on seem relatively straightforward. Still, does anyone have a link, guide, or website that explains this topic clearly for beginners?
2. The topic of one or two meters for household and heat pump has come up here several times. For now, I have decided to stick with two meters. Since ideally, I want to power both the heating and household with the photovoltaic system, the PV vendor recommended a "power to heat" setup. Does anyone have experience with this and can offer advice? The electrician who will install the system soon was more cautious and wanted to cover only household electricity with the PV system. Which is better?
3. Now, this is a bit off-topic: Since my car has broken down, I am considering getting an electric vehicle. Does anyone have experience with how well charging an EV through the photovoltaic system works? In winter, of course, it’s probably less effective since the car won’t be at home during the day. The wallbox is already ordered. However, I am still unsure whether this makes sense. The car would stay in the garage continuously on weekends, so there should be enough hours to have it fully charged by Monday.
4. Now this is even more off-topic: Since house construction and the upcoming outdoor landscaping are costly, an unplanned vehicle purchase hurts the budget a bit. Since I want to keep my reserves untouched, I’m considering leasing an electric car. Thanks to environmental incentives, the monthly costs should be relatively low. I had an appointment at a dealership yesterday. When I compare their offer with those online, there are sometimes very large differences. Common leasing platforms also offer deals from dealerships, but often cheaper than the local dealer. Does anyone know why there are such differences and whether online offers are reliable? Has anyone leased a car online?
Thanks and best regards
Stefan2.84
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Isokrates8 Jul 2021 12:35Chris2511 schrieb:
What is so great about all these electric car leasing offers right now?Because it provides a very affordable way to drive an (electric) car without residual value risk.
The leasing periods for the incentives were adjusted again last year, but overall, it is still clearly supported politically.
By the way, as far as I know, the BAfA grant can be claimed multiple times.
So if you lease a car with the grant as a down payment now and the funding pool lasts until 2025, you can lease another car with the grant later or buy one once technological progress slows down.
Edit: @nordanney already explained it well.
Why shouldn’t I be allowed to drive an electric car for little money? The tax is also zero for a maximum of 5 years. Who wouldn’t be surprised when the notice arrives showing a 30€/year credit, which for me is basically zero since the normal annual tax is only 27€. As a business customer, the taxation rate is only 0.5% or 0.25%.
I already mentioned a few days ago that the last time I refueled was just before the end of May. The next time will probably be in a few days, I think. So that’s about one and a half months for a full tank, driven in hybrid mode. With the current temperatures, that means about 55 km (35 miles) according to the display.
I already mentioned a few days ago that the last time I refueled was just before the end of May. The next time will probably be in a few days, I think. So that’s about one and a half months for a full tank, driven in hybrid mode. With the current temperatures, that means about 55 km (35 miles) according to the display.
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Stefan2.848 Jul 2021 12:42Isokrates schrieb:
By the way, as far as I know, the BAfA subsidy can be claimed multiple times. So if you lease a car with the subsidy as a down payment now, and the funding pool lasts until 2025, you can lease another car with the subsidy or buy one later when technological progress is no longer as rapid.Yes, the subsidy is linked to the vehicle, not the person. BUT this system is really flawed. As a result, every 2-3 years, vehicles enter the used market that nobody wants because they no longer qualify for subsidies and the technology is more or less outdated.
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Isokrates8 Jul 2021 12:47Stefan2.84 schrieb:
Yes, the bonus is tied to the vehicle, not the person. BUT this is a completely flawed system It basically represents an indirect subsidy to the automotive industry again.
Whether it makes sense or not is debatable, but at the moment, registration numbers for electric cars are rising sharply.
Depending on the manufacturer, the environmental friendliness varies, but that is the goal after all.
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You definitely cannot claim the vehicle for tax purposes. I never said otherwise.
Isokrates schrieb:
I can’t say how the dealers’ conditions look now. They just wanted to see a business license – that was it.
Isokrates schrieb:
Usually, businesses are legally at a disadvantage compared to private individuals. That’s true, but with vehicles, it doesn’t really matter that much.
Isokrates schrieb:
There could probably be problems regarding vehicle registration law. I don’t see which, do you have a suspicion in which direction?
nordanney schrieb:
That’s fine.
That’s also true. Although you have to say that the photovoltaic system often can’t fully recharge the battery on many days. In summer it usually can.
Even worse is that you don’t get the VAT refund if you install the photovoltaic system first and then add the battery storage later. Then it ends up being significantly more expensive than ordering the photovoltaic and storage package together.We would actually have to retrofit the battery storage. It wasn’t a topic at the time of purchase. Even now, it’s not really a priority since I’m just looking into it a bit at the moment. Our car was bought new in 2014 and should still last for a while.