Hello,
I’m new here and not very experienced with the technical side of building. I’m glad to have found this forum.
Tomorrow is the first appointment on the construction site. I’m building a bungalow without a basement with Heinz von Heiden, so almost everything is handled by one company.
The site conditions are such that the construction access road and future driveway must be placed alongside the house up to the neighboring property boundary. After accounting for the foundation base around the house, this leaves a width of about 3.50 meters (11.5 feet) available.
The earthworks contractor hired by the general contractor has submitted an offer for the access road across the full width. However, the wastewater pipes (sewage and rainwater) still need to be installed between the foundation base and the access road.
The earthworks contractor offered to do this as an additional service for over 10,000 euros!
We are talking about about 40 meters (131 feet) of trench length...
So having them do this is out of the question. Now I have found another company that can do this at a reasonable price.
My question:
At what point in the construction schedule are the drainage pipes installed?
Is it advisable to complete this before stabilizing the access road and before the concrete slab is poured? This would avoid having to reopen the access road later. Is this even technically feasible, since the pipes for the house/foundation slab are not yet in place? And is it possible for two companies to work side by side simultaneously on these tasks?
Or should a 50 cm (20 inches) strip be left “free” between the foundation base and the access road (making the access road only 3 meters (10 feet) wide), so that the trenching and pipe installation can be done afterward? I want to avoid spending money twice and having to break up the compacted access road later.
The earthworks contractor doesn’t care—more volume means more profit for them.
A similar issue applies to securing the side of the access road along the neighbor’s property. I want to install L-shaped curb stones right on the property line because my ground level is somewhat lower than the neighbor’s and the fence will be mounted on these stones. To me, it makes sense to set these stones before the access road is compacted and backfilled. The earthworks contractor is not knowledgeable in this area and is more for rough work... so presumably two companies would need to be involved here as well.
Thanks for your quick advice so I can contribute at tomorrow afternoon’s meeting.
Attached are the drainage and site plans
I’m new here and not very experienced with the technical side of building. I’m glad to have found this forum.
Tomorrow is the first appointment on the construction site. I’m building a bungalow without a basement with Heinz von Heiden, so almost everything is handled by one company.
The site conditions are such that the construction access road and future driveway must be placed alongside the house up to the neighboring property boundary. After accounting for the foundation base around the house, this leaves a width of about 3.50 meters (11.5 feet) available.
The earthworks contractor hired by the general contractor has submitted an offer for the access road across the full width. However, the wastewater pipes (sewage and rainwater) still need to be installed between the foundation base and the access road.
The earthworks contractor offered to do this as an additional service for over 10,000 euros!
We are talking about about 40 meters (131 feet) of trench length...
So having them do this is out of the question. Now I have found another company that can do this at a reasonable price.
My question:
At what point in the construction schedule are the drainage pipes installed?
Is it advisable to complete this before stabilizing the access road and before the concrete slab is poured? This would avoid having to reopen the access road later. Is this even technically feasible, since the pipes for the house/foundation slab are not yet in place? And is it possible for two companies to work side by side simultaneously on these tasks?
Or should a 50 cm (20 inches) strip be left “free” between the foundation base and the access road (making the access road only 3 meters (10 feet) wide), so that the trenching and pipe installation can be done afterward? I want to avoid spending money twice and having to break up the compacted access road later.
The earthworks contractor doesn’t care—more volume means more profit for them.
A similar issue applies to securing the side of the access road along the neighbor’s property. I want to install L-shaped curb stones right on the property line because my ground level is somewhat lower than the neighbor’s and the fence will be mounted on these stones. To me, it makes sense to set these stones before the access road is compacted and backfilled. The earthworks contractor is not knowledgeable in this area and is more for rough work... so presumably two companies would need to be involved here as well.
Thanks for your quick advice so I can contribute at tomorrow afternoon’s meeting.
Attached are the drainage and site plans
Vicky Pedia19 Apr 2020 19:18Hello brave lady! This is generally about all the utilities installed outdoors. So drinking water, electrical, telecommunications, as well as wastewater and rainwater. The drainage on your property goes into a combined sewer, meaning both types of water flow together.
These civil engineering works are usually done once the house is built and the scaffolding is removed. It makes sense to have everything done by one civil engineering company. The process typically involves finishing the interior work while outside there is space for the civil engineer to work, who will likely also install the parking spaces.
I had an almost identical situation last year, what a coincidence.
Good luck with your project.
These civil engineering works are usually done once the house is built and the scaffolding is removed. It makes sense to have everything done by one civil engineering company. The process typically involves finishing the interior work while outside there is space for the civil engineer to work, who will likely also install the parking spaces.
I had an almost identical situation last year, what a coincidence.
Good luck with your project.
Pet1234 schrieb:
The civil engineer offered these works in an additional quote for over €10,000!!!Wow!Pet1234 schrieb:
We are talking about around 40 meters of trench length...I see.Pet1234 schrieb:
At what point in the house construction schedule are the drainage pipes installed?Later. Once all the toilet drains are finalized according to the drainage plan and the gutters are installed. Only then does the excavation for the drainage begin.H
HilfeHilfe20 Apr 2020 06:34How much do the providers differ in price?
I wouldn’t remove anything from the contract as long as Heinz von Heiden is on the logo. Warranty, etc.
I wouldn’t remove anything from the contract as long as Heinz von Heiden is on the logo. Warranty, etc.
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