I haven’t built one myself (unfortunately), but I have closely followed how several of these houses were constructed in our new development area. I’m not familiar with the providers mentioned. In our case, the company was ISO-Massivhaus. Some homeowners built parts themselves, while others had the houses delivered as turnkey projects. Depending on how much effort the homeowner put in, the construction went faster or slower. I know almost all the homeowners, and honestly, I’m a bit jealous of how low their heating costs are... ****** The costs certainly depend on how much you do yourself.
The topic of construction supervision is very complex and can have legal liability implications.
Hiring an architect for construction supervision costs money; it always depends on the level of need.
With "more," you usually get "more," but on construction sites, this often means at the end "empty wallet, unfinished building" because everything is pushed through at any cost. I, too, have fed "sharks" with my money.
When you are young, you don’t yet have the knowledge and end up paying for it.
I would like to roughly outline my role as a guide for building with Lego blocks:
1. Check and, if necessary, modify the plans and structural calculations for feasibility with Lego, since they are not always designed for Lego construction.
2. Strongly recommend an insulated ground slab; omit the foundation concrete and instead use the saved money to buy approved insulation. This makes the ground slab barely more expensive (house without a basement).
3. Strongly recommend a ventilation system; so far, one has been installed in every house I have supervised as part of owner’s labor. Costs are about $2,700–$3,700 depending on the system.
4. Assemble the Lego blocks together with the builder, including lintel reinforcement and concrete pouring, at least for one floor; provide and collect the formwork supports.
5. On request, provide on-site instruction on laying and concreting a precast slab.
6. On request, assemble and concretize a second floor.
7. Provide advice on installing roof insulation and material selection, vapor barriers, and creating airtightness against wind.
8. Recommend fiberboard panels instead of roofing underlay in the roof area.
9. Heating system / heat pump consulting and installation supervision.
I usually spend two days on the construction site during Lego assembly or ground slab work. This allows enough time to discuss the project from bottom to top, in advance by email and phone, but it is easier face to face.
I accompany every project as if it were my own house from start to finish. However, I can only recommend; the builder must decide and pay.
I work as a freelancer at a concrete plant with a planning office, responsible for selling concrete products to private customers and building material dealers, including installation assistance. I’m almost daily on different construction sites, so I’m familiar with building material prices and take this knowledge into account in my role as a guide—I believe I have mentioned this verifiably before.
I run a heating sales business myself and have exclusively installed heat pumps since 1994.
I have built houses in Berlin, Ingolstadt, Krefeld, Siegen, and many in the Wolfsburg/Gifhorn/Uelzen/Celle region (my residential area).
I always find it unfortunate to see "Lego building sites" left unfinished because of a lack of money, construction defects caused by often excessive self-confidence or lack of knowledge, and so on.
I wish all Lego builders a great guide and a lot of fun with the assembly.
Best regards, Reini
Hiring an architect for construction supervision costs money; it always depends on the level of need.
With "more," you usually get "more," but on construction sites, this often means at the end "empty wallet, unfinished building" because everything is pushed through at any cost. I, too, have fed "sharks" with my money.
When you are young, you don’t yet have the knowledge and end up paying for it.
I would like to roughly outline my role as a guide for building with Lego blocks:
1. Check and, if necessary, modify the plans and structural calculations for feasibility with Lego, since they are not always designed for Lego construction.
2. Strongly recommend an insulated ground slab; omit the foundation concrete and instead use the saved money to buy approved insulation. This makes the ground slab barely more expensive (house without a basement).
3. Strongly recommend a ventilation system; so far, one has been installed in every house I have supervised as part of owner’s labor. Costs are about $2,700–$3,700 depending on the system.
4. Assemble the Lego blocks together with the builder, including lintel reinforcement and concrete pouring, at least for one floor; provide and collect the formwork supports.
5. On request, provide on-site instruction on laying and concreting a precast slab.
6. On request, assemble and concretize a second floor.
7. Provide advice on installing roof insulation and material selection, vapor barriers, and creating airtightness against wind.
8. Recommend fiberboard panels instead of roofing underlay in the roof area.
9. Heating system / heat pump consulting and installation supervision.
I usually spend two days on the construction site during Lego assembly or ground slab work. This allows enough time to discuss the project from bottom to top, in advance by email and phone, but it is easier face to face.
I accompany every project as if it were my own house from start to finish. However, I can only recommend; the builder must decide and pay.
I work as a freelancer at a concrete plant with a planning office, responsible for selling concrete products to private customers and building material dealers, including installation assistance. I’m almost daily on different construction sites, so I’m familiar with building material prices and take this knowledge into account in my role as a guide—I believe I have mentioned this verifiably before.
I run a heating sales business myself and have exclusively installed heat pumps since 1994.
I have built houses in Berlin, Ingolstadt, Krefeld, Siegen, and many in the Wolfsburg/Gifhorn/Uelzen/Celle region (my residential area).
I always find it unfortunate to see "Lego building sites" left unfinished because of a lack of money, construction defects caused by often excessive self-confidence or lack of knowledge, and so on.
I wish all Lego builders a great guide and a lot of fun with the assembly.
Best regards, Reini
I have seen and read a lot, but what is the final cost of a standard prefabricated house made with Neopor? I mean a house with a foundation slab, windows, doors, exterior plaster, interior drywall, a bathtub and toilet, and laminate flooring—that is, a prefabricated house.
I saw an offer on eBay,
House U-value: 0.15 W, for 88,000 euros, size 14 x 9.75 meters (46 x 32 feet), 2 floors, about 270 sqm (2,906 sq ft). 88,000 / 270 = 325 euros per sqm. What additional costs should I expect? How much should I calculate per sqm for a prefabricated house?
I saw an offer on eBay,
House U-value: 0.15 W, for 88,000 euros, size 14 x 9.75 meters (46 x 32 feet), 2 floors, about 270 sqm (2,906 sq ft). 88,000 / 270 = 325 euros per sqm. What additional costs should I expect? How much should I calculate per sqm for a prefabricated house?
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Frank197520 Aug 2011 17:05My family built a Neopor house in Freren in 2010 with exzellent Massivhaus GmbH, and we were very satisfied. There was good personal consultation beforehand, and the price was better compared to other options. What we also appreciated a lot was the assistance we received with financing.
We can definitely recommend building a house with exzellent Massivhaus.
Regards, Frank1975
We can definitely recommend building a house with exzellent Massivhaus.
Regards, Frank1975
Willi Wacker schrieb:
Requesting prices directly from the manufacturer sounds good, but as a private customer, you either don’t get supplied at all or you don’t receive the same prices as a contractor. Of course, the contractor needs to make a living too. But they also offer support, formwork supports (very important!), advice, warranties, take care of quantity calculations, and take back excess materials. Overall, definitely the better choice.
The representative from ISO-Massivhaus told me that he is regularly asked for help by individual self-builders because they can’t proceed without supervision. There are probably some things you can easily get wrong, for example with concrete work. Better to have a professional on site, right?Hello everyone,
Unfortunately, this was also our experience. As private customers, you barely get any support, and we simply did not want to take the risk of being left without any assistance. We researched intensively online and spoke with several building companies. Unfortunately, none in Bavaria met our needs, mainly because we didn’t want a turnkey house but planned to do a lot ourselves for cost reasons. Either the companies were not flexible enough or were still beginners in the field with Neopor.
Recently, we signed a contract with the company Exzellent Massivhaus from Rheinberg in NRW (by the way, that’s how we found out about this forum, including the keyword Neopor). All of our requests were taken into account, especially the full construction supervision including a site manager from Exzellent Massivhaus. This was very important to us, and I can only recommend that any future builder who plans to do a lot themselves insist on this.
We are already curious how things will proceed and will keep you updated. It would be great if someone else currently working with Neopor as part of their own work could connect with us for exchange.
Greetings from Bavaria
Miri
Hello,
I’m not sure if the contract has now been specifically adjusted to our wishes, but I don’t think so. We received the contract a few days earlier and took our time to read through it carefully. We also had a friend who is a lawyer review it since we are doing a lot of the work ourselves. All the points important to us were included. There were no unclear or misleading statements.
By "all of our wishes have been addressed," I was referring more to changes like the x-room layout modification made by us or the choice of colors, etc.
I’m not sure if the contract has now been specifically adjusted to our wishes, but I don’t think so. We received the contract a few days earlier and took our time to read through it carefully. We also had a friend who is a lawyer review it since we are doing a lot of the work ourselves. All the points important to us were included. There were no unclear or misleading statements.
By "all of our wishes have been addressed," I was referring more to changes like the x-room layout modification made by us or the choice of colors, etc.
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Bauexperte17 Apr 2012 14:07Hello,
Thank you for the information.
Kind regards
Thank you for the information.
Miri schrieb:And did the lawyer friend not, for example, point out the—let’s say—unusual payment schedule?
and had a lawyer friend review it, since we are doing a lot ourselves. All important points for us were included. No unclear or misleading statements.
Kind regards
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