ᐅ New construction bathroom walls fully tiled with double layers
Created on: 20 Jan 2019 13:52
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Vince227420 Jan 2019 13:52Hello dear experts,
Despite searching, I couldn’t find anything similar.
Here is the problem:
We recently purchased a new condominium.
During the bathroom renovation, the tiler installed the wrong tiles on the wall.
After we raised this issue, the site manager assured us that the incorrect tiles would be removed, the underlying drywall replaced, and the correct tiles installed.
Now I have noticed that the tiler has simply tiled over the wrong tiles.
What should we do now?
Thank you very much for your help.
Despite searching, I couldn’t find anything similar.
Here is the problem:
We recently purchased a new condominium.
During the bathroom renovation, the tiler installed the wrong tiles on the wall.
After we raised this issue, the site manager assured us that the incorrect tiles would be removed, the underlying drywall replaced, and the correct tiles installed.
Now I have noticed that the tiler has simply tiled over the wrong tiles.
What should we do now?
Thank you very much for your help.
Vince2274 schrieb:
Now I noticed that the tiler just installed tiles over the wrong ones. Your “damage” is a bathroom that is about 1cm (0.4 inches) narrower and shorter. Where exactly is that a problem?
Vince2274 schrieb:
We were assured by the site manager that the wrong tiles would be removed and the underlying drywall replaced. They tricked you there: you can’t just break off drywall like that; the drywall would have to be redone (at the tiler’s cost, but not by the tiler himself).
Construction is pretty rough work; you can’t just click something away easily ;-)
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Vince227420 Jan 2019 14:15The damage is not limited to just the smaller bathroom.
If renovations are going to be done, everything definitely needs to be removed.
Also, no one knows if a special adhesive was used by the tile installer.
According to DIN standards, this wouldn’t be considered a correct installation in a new build.
And last but not least, it is fraud, because we were assured that the defect would be fixed.
If renovations are going to be done, everything definitely needs to be removed.
Also, no one knows if a special adhesive was used by the tile installer.
According to DIN standards, this wouldn’t be considered a correct installation in a new build.
And last but not least, it is fraud, because we were assured that the defect would be fixed.
Tiling over existing tiles is not exactly best practice. However, the issue has “technically” been resolved. In construction, a lot depends on proportionality.
During a renovation, everything usually needs to be removed anyway, whether it’s one or two layers of tiles.
I understand your frustration, but you have a bathroom with the correct tiles. Let’s also assume the tiler used the proper adhesive.
Standards like DIN are guidelines and not mandatory. You should check your contract for details.
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The use of standards is generally voluntary. Standards are not legally binding, which distinguishes them from laws.
Source: DIN website
In your case, I would try to negotiate an extended warranty (since tiles could fall off in a number of years) and at the same time ask for a discount, as the finished bathroom does not fully match what was initially ordered. But don’t immediately resort to legal threats, as that usually doesn’t help.
During a renovation, everything usually needs to be removed anyway, whether it’s one or two layers of tiles.
I understand your frustration, but you have a bathroom with the correct tiles. Let’s also assume the tiler used the proper adhesive.
Standards like DIN are guidelines and not mandatory. You should check your contract for details.
Quote:
The use of standards is generally voluntary. Standards are not legally binding, which distinguishes them from laws.
Source: DIN website
In your case, I would try to negotiate an extended warranty (since tiles could fall off in a number of years) and at the same time ask for a discount, as the finished bathroom does not fully match what was initially ordered. But don’t immediately resort to legal threats, as that usually doesn’t help.
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Vince227420 Jan 2019 14:30For a 7.5 m2 (81 sq ft) bathroom, what would be a reasonable discount?
If we agreed on a complete renovation,
Sanitary fixtures would need to be removed,
Tiles and drywall taken down,
Second layer of drywall replaced,
New tiles installed,
Sanitary fixtures newly installed.
Would need to be done.
If we agreed on a complete renovation,
Sanitary fixtures would need to be removed,
Tiles and drywall taken down,
Second layer of drywall replaced,
New tiles installed,
Sanitary fixtures newly installed.
Would need to be done.
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HilfeHilfe20 Jan 2019 16:26Vince2274 schrieb:
For a 7.5m² (80.7 sq ft) bathroom, what would be a reasonable discount?
If we insisted on a complete renovation,
Sanitary fixtures would have to be removed,
Tiles and drywall taken down,
Second layer of drywall replaced,
New tiling,
Sanitary fixtures reinstalled.
That would need to be done. Did you get the discount verbally or in writing? If verbally, then...
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