ᐅ Is this landscaping contractor’s quote reasonable or way too expensive?

Created on: 15 Sep 2018 17:40
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hi!

I received a quote from a landscape contractor and I’m curious to know if you think it’s reasonable or excessively high. I knew from the start that it wouldn’t be the cheapest, but it would still be interesting to get your take on it.

It’s a bit disappointing that he initially said he could complete everything for €125,000 (around $135,000), including even a pool and lighting package, but now many things aren’t included at all—no lighting, no irrigation system, etc.

Unfortunately, in this area, there aren’t many alternative quotes available. If you don’t plan from the beginning and are ready to proceed, it’s hard to get other options offered.

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R.Hotzenplotz
23 Sep 2018 19:21
11ant schrieb:
How is someone supposed to know that when asked for a counteroffer? – then it’s better to ask directly: this is what the colleague wants, is he unreasonable, or would you need to charge about the same?

I don’t just send a redacted list without comment; of course, I call them beforehand and openly explain my thoughts. For example, that my site manager reviewed the offer and said it was way overpriced. Sometimes I even mentioned the total price. But regardless of how you approach it, this is generally difficult. One company has now contacted me and said that I should lay the electrical cables and pipes for the future irrigation system myself in advance, then they could handle the installation. We didn’t get as far as discussing costs because this approach doesn’t help me at all. I’d be juggling countless individual trades, and afterward, it would be a huge mess—no one would know where anything is, and so on…
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haydee
23 Sep 2018 19:29
If he worked 10 hours every Saturday on the outdoor area for a whole year, that would be 520 hours, and there would still be no end in sight. Not feasible. Ok, then he would have a construction site for 4 years – if that’s what he wants.

Besides, the person might be physically capable, but
- he has no experience
- he wouldn’t have time for his daughter (yes, children like to help, but never for long)
- he will probably earn more per hour than the landscaper charges.

An outdoor area project without experience, but with high expectations and money in reserve – better stay away.

There are plenty of garden maintenance and small home tasks available, where he can find work that he enjoys and that helps him relax mentally.
11ant23 Sep 2018 20:06
haydee schrieb:
- he will probably earn more per hour than the landscaper charges.

Surely at work, but probably not during rehab – and the discussion here is not about the typical owner-builder labor debate.
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haydee
23 Sep 2018 20:34
Burnout involves more than just working a lot.
11ant23 Sep 2018 20:40
haydee schrieb:
Burnout involves more than just a heavy workload
Yes. For example, requesting plans before driving a nail into the wall – hiring a lighting designer for a lamp shopping list – creating a scope of work for a cabinetmaker – believing in balance through jogging. Each is harmless on its own, but all together, it’s no longer the case.
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R.Hotzenplotz
23 Sep 2018 20:50
11ant schrieb:
hire a lighting designer for a lamp shopping list

If it’s not included in the architect’s scope of services, there’s hardly any other option. Or am I expected to predict how many recessed lights are needed on the ceiling to achieve balanced lighting and how to develop a lighting concept using the products currently available on the market? It’s quite strange that customers are flooding both lighting designers I’ve worked with to such an extent that you have to wait weeks for an appointment each time. Are they all failures? All people on the verge of a mental health crisis? That’s nonsense.