ᐅ Is this landscaping contractor’s quote reasonable or way too expensive?

Egberto schrieb:
Nowadays, nobody really enjoys price negotiations.

On the other hand, companies can consider themselves lucky—no customer makes it easier for them than by providing a nearly finished bill of quantities where they only need to fill in their reference values. No hours-long discussions with the client, and so on... just half an hour of work and they've positioned themselves. I’m experiencing this right now with furniture shopping. The desired Hülsta cabinets are being requested from four different companies, and some of the salespeople are actually grateful to receive a ready-to-go package including the itemized list. This also saves the hassle of “I have to call the department manager,” since they can clarify internally right away and provide feedback on what’s feasible. At the same time, it conveys that although they have little work to do, they must offer a top price to win the contract.

Definitely, especially since it doesn’t have to lead to price dumping. The client wants to know where they stand; it’s not about squeezing out the last percentage point. Quality work may cost more, and a better gut feeling is worth it, but there is a limit somewhere.

It is never really about percentage points – even though furniture retailers often try to make you believe otherwise with their marketing. I think it is always about clear euro values for clearly defined services.

With Hülsta in particular, you can rely on percentages because the recommended retail price (RRP) is listed in the catalogs. You can always get 20% off the list price; anything more would be great.

@Egberto
I have nothing more to say except "yes, that's how it is." Feel free to look it up on Google.

Alex85 schrieb:
With Hülsta, you can base discounts on percentages because the recommended retail price (RRP) is listed in the catalogs. You can always get 20% off the list price, more would be great.

In our region, there are two furniture stores offering 35% and 40% discounts on Hülsta products. But even from those prices, I have now managed to get almost an additional 5% off (at a dealer who doesn’t even advertise any discount promotions).

I will now present this price to our dealer, who has put the most effort into the planning. If their manager agrees, they will have the opportunity to close the sale.

Alex85 schrieb:
@Egberto[/USER]
I have nothing to say except “yes, it is like that.” Feel free to look it up on Google.[
@Egberto
I have nothing to say except “yes, it is like that.” Feel free to look it up on Google.

I am generally not a fan of seeking legal advice through Google, because often as much nonsense is shared there as when asking laypeople for legal counsel.

It always depends on the individual case, but the scope of services specification submitted by the creator does not have creative originality in the legal sense. The German Federal Court of Justice ruled on this in its decision dated March 29, 1984, I ZR 32/82, particularly paragraph 26, regarding tender documents for a pipeline, specifically a scope of services specification for the tender of engineering and pipeline construction work, which included execution conditions for the acceptance and storage of pipes, accessories, protection of pipeline insulation, equipment for welding work, origin of materials and construction products, documents to be prepared by the contractor concerning the work process,... This was much more detailed than the document here. The court found that this lacked creative originality and the documents were permitted to be reused.

This was also recently reiterated by the Regional Court of Cologne in its judgment dated December 18, 2014, case number 14 O 193/14, concerning a performance description in a public procurement procedure.

I do not want to write a legal dissertation here—the architect is always right anyway. Being cautious is certainly not wrong and does no harm; however, broadly accusing others of copyright infringement is not productive.