ᐅ Surcharge now also applied to small tiles?

Created on: 2 May 2018 20:10
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Crustulum
We want to renovate our bathroom and have chosen 2.5cm (1 inch) mosaic tiles for the entire bathroom (walls and floor, about 30m² (322 ft²)).
The quote from the tiler has become significantly more expensive as a result.
“Because it requires cleaner work and more effort.”
The laying cost alone has increased by $1200, and the preparatory work by $2500 – all plus VAT.
The preparatory work also includes machine costs, which have risen from $1000 to $2500.

We cannot understand this, as we assumed that smaller tiles on mesh backing would be easier and faster to install. It is even recommended for beginners to do it themselves because it is supposedly easier.

You often read that there are surcharges for large tiles, also “because cleaner work is required… see above,” and now also for small tiles?
Basically, we always expect work to be done carefully.

It raises the suspicion that a surcharge is now generally charged whenever the tile size differs from the one that nobody wants to install anyway.

Question: Is the surcharge justified? If not, what would be acceptable?
Crustulum3 May 2018 11:02
HilfeHilfe schrieb:
Have you ever done a jigsaw puzzle in your life??

If not, please buy a puzzle that is 80 × 100 cm (31 × 39 inches):

- one for toddlers with 20 pieces
- one for adults with 200 pieces

Which one will be completed faster?

These are not individual pieces. Mosaic tiles are mounted on sheets that are about 30 cm × 30 cm (12 × 12 inches).

The spacing between tiles is already fixed there.

@cschiko Thanks.

Are there any guidelines on how expensive something like this might be?
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Kekse
3 May 2018 11:04
Get alternative quotes. Basically, the extra cost can be whatever someone is willing to pay and a tradesperson is willing to accept. It’s best if there is some overlap between these, but if not, then there just won’t be any mosaic tiles.
Crustulum3 May 2018 11:07
That was mainly a philosophical reflection, but I like your name^^
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ypg
3 May 2018 11:08
Crustulum schrieb:

And the spacings are already fixed there.

?


But the 30 x 30 cm (12 x 12 inches) mats still have to match up with the other mats. If one is even slightly misaligned, it looks worse because of all the joints than if a larger panel is offset by 1 mm (0.04 inches).
I also remember that he had to place individual small mosaic pieces along the edges. Overall, it took him almost 2 days to cover 2 square meters (21.5 square feet).

Do you understand it now?
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cschiko
3 May 2018 11:10
I also believe that the only real solution is the suggestion from Kekse. It is simply not possible to specify a fixed additional cost, as the extra charge can vary significantly. This largely depends on how experienced the tiler is. There are tilers who enjoy working with mosaics, while others can do it but only with considerably more effort.

The problem is that the mats allow for a certain amount of movement, and this needs to be adjusted accordingly.
Crustulum3 May 2018 11:11
Yes, of course. (But I would expect the gaps to be perfect with other tiles as well.)

I am now asking what a reasonable surcharge would be.

@cschiko: Overlapping – thanks! I will get other quotes and be done with it.