ᐅ Plan the house first and buy the land afterwards?

Created on: 9 Jan 2018 16:37
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Spritti123
My girlfriend and I want to start building within the next 1-4 years. We already have a clear idea of our house. We know exactly that we want to build in the town where we already live. However, I think our house might not fit on the plots in the new development area. The largest plots are 680 square meters (7309 square feet) and have a maximum ridge height of 9.5 meters (31 feet). I also don’t want the house to feel cramped on the lot. So I was wondering if it would make more sense to first discuss our wishes with an architect, who could then look for a suitable plot where the house would actually fit. Or am I completely on the wrong track, and is this approach very unusual?

Here are our ideas for the house. I just added one thing from another discussion here on the forum. My girlfriend is really into steel trims for window decoration. Can an architect work with a requirement like that?

Plot/House General

  • Number of floors does not matter – maximum 4 if the attic is developed
  • Attic, if not developed, used as storage
  • Basement, if included, with windows
  • No sloped ceilings in any rooms except for a developed attic or on the 4th floor
  • Roof shape does not matter, just no flat roof
  • Brick facade
  • Terrace not too close to neighboring plot, minimum 5 meters (16 feet) distance
  • Large double garage
  • 2 outdoor parking spaces for cars

Entrance Area (Vestibule/Foyer)

  • Entrance area with wardrobe
  • Stairs not in the entrance area but in the hallway leading to the living area
  • Access to the garage from the entrance area

Dining/Living Room

  • Only dining and living room open plan – kitchen in a separate room
  • Dining table for minimum 10 people; chairs or corner bench possible
  • Living room space for 2 large functional sofas (3-seat) and side tables
  • Fireplace visible from the sofas
  • Large media wall with TV

Kitchen

  • Lots of storage – small dining table for 4 people
  • Doors to the hallway and dining area

Master Suite

  • Bedroom
  • Walk-in closet
  • Bathroom with tub, large shower, double sink
  • Separate toilet

Children’s Rooms

  • 2 rooms at least 16 square meters (172 square feet) each
  • Separate bathroom for children with tub and shower

Fitness Room

  • At least 30 square meters (323 square feet)

Office

  • At least 14 square meters (150 square feet)

Guest WC

  • Without shower or tub

Terrace

  • Partially covered (without glass)
  • Dining table for 10 people
  • Outdoor kitchen (grill/sink/fridge/work surface)
  • Terrace large enough to also fit 6 beer garden-style benches with backrests
  • Terrace must be open on only 2 sides
  • Transparent protective roller shutters on the terrace
  • Terrace accessible from the living/dining area and level with no steps

Heating/Utility Room

  • Large, also suitable for washing and drying clothes – possibly a separate room for washing and drying on the sleeping level

Special Requests

  • Large separate room for bicycles/trash bins/car tires/lawnmower/garden tools etc.
  • Storage closet on each floor
  • Central vacuum system
  • Fireplace in the living room connected to the heating system
  • Central ventilation/alarm system/underfloor heating/shutters/lights – electronically controlled via units in ground floor hallway and master bedroom
  • Steel trims embedded in plaster in the window lintels, wallpapered over. Window decorations freely positionable on magnetic hooks
  • Lots of indirect lighting
  • Visible beams (rustic modern), can also be fake
  • Alarm system securing lower windows and doors
  • Laundry chute (omit if there is a separate laundry room on the sleeping level)
  • Solar system
  • Attic, if present, accessible via regular stairs
  • Accessible for disabled – doors and corridors wide enough – enough space for stairlift
  • Many electrical outlets
  • LAN cables in office and children’s rooms
  • Finished ceiling height slightly higher because of visible (fake) beams or suspended ceilings (indirect lighting)
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ypg
11 Jan 2018 13:39
Bieber0815 schrieb:
I would invest in stocks; it requires much less effort than owning real estate and offers broader diversification. But anyway, that’s not necessarily the topic here... Although... In what form was the savings accumulated? How is this capital held today?

Oh, I already would have bought 1 or 2 plots of land by now.
kaho67411 Jan 2018 13:42
ypg schrieb:
Ah, I would have already had 1-2 plots of land

...with 2-3 horses and horse caretakers.
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Nordlys
11 Jan 2018 16:15
Arable land with a windmill on it.
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Spritti123
11 Jan 2018 16:58
My girlfriend and I will still be working for several decades, so there will be plenty of money left to invest. I also believe that real estate and stocks are the best long-term investments.

I owe my good start to my parents and my girlfriend’s parents because they have always been thrifty and hardworking and have built up some assets. Many of my friends’ parents rent their homes and have been throwing money away. When the children moved out, they had to rent an apartment right away. My children will also benefit from this someday.

The equity from my girlfriend’s side comes from her parents because they own a company, and her brother will have to buy her out. At the moment, she is still studying law.
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Silent010
11 Jan 2018 17:05
Spritti123 schrieb:
My girlfriend and I will still be working for a few decades, so there will be plenty of money left over for investing.

Also, make sure to allow enough free time to actually enjoy living in your dream home.
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Spritti123
11 Jan 2018 17:10
Silent010 schrieb:
Also remember to have enough free time to enjoy living in your dream home
Yes, I’m thinking about that. I’ll be leaving shift work, so weekend work will be over. And the side job I do during vacations and partly on weekends will also be given up as soon as the kids arrive.