Hello forum community,
I hope it’s okay that I’m asking a question here as a tenant, because I expect a lot of expertise on the topic...
A few months ago, we moved into a rented apartment on the first floor of an old building (late 19th century, three-story brick building). The apartments were renovated 5 years ago, and the walls were plastered with clay plaster.
Now, the tenant in the apartment below us told us that recently, severe cracks have appeared in the ceiling plaster of her apartment. She also finds our children quite loud. That may be true, as they are quite lively and sometimes run around inside the apartment. However, we make sure they don’t constantly jump off chairs or similar. Additionally, all the apartments have laminate flooring (according to the landlord, with impact sound insulation), and we can clearly hear the tenants above us when they walk around, even though they tend to be quiet.
She spoke to the landlord about this, and after they inspected the damage, it seems that the entire plaster in her ceiling will need to be replaced. Of course, this is the landlord’s responsibility, but the time required is significant, especially for a single mother with two children, as she has to empty all the rooms.
The tenant below connects this to us moving into the apartment above, saying the cracks only appeared since we moved in. Apparently, the previous tenants were quieter. I really can’t imagine that two children weighing a maximum of 20 kg (44 lbs) running around could cause the plaster below to crumble? Based on my basic understanding of construction, there are always cavities in ceilings, so vibrations shouldn’t be transmitted so directly, right? Sure, if I had two overweight 15-year-olds regularly practicing martial arts indoors, I could imagine that, but with slender kindergarten children? What kind of building is it if it can’t handle that…?
The noise issue is separate, and I understand that. We are considering putting carpets in the main rooms.
Is it conceivable that running children could have such an impact? Or how else could cracks in the clay plaster below appear within just a few months? By the way, we also have cracks, but they seem normal and don’t look like the plaster is about to come down.
Thanks in advance if anyone took the time to read this!
I hope it’s okay that I’m asking a question here as a tenant, because I expect a lot of expertise on the topic...
A few months ago, we moved into a rented apartment on the first floor of an old building (late 19th century, three-story brick building). The apartments were renovated 5 years ago, and the walls were plastered with clay plaster.
Now, the tenant in the apartment below us told us that recently, severe cracks have appeared in the ceiling plaster of her apartment. She also finds our children quite loud. That may be true, as they are quite lively and sometimes run around inside the apartment. However, we make sure they don’t constantly jump off chairs or similar. Additionally, all the apartments have laminate flooring (according to the landlord, with impact sound insulation), and we can clearly hear the tenants above us when they walk around, even though they tend to be quiet.
She spoke to the landlord about this, and after they inspected the damage, it seems that the entire plaster in her ceiling will need to be replaced. Of course, this is the landlord’s responsibility, but the time required is significant, especially for a single mother with two children, as she has to empty all the rooms.
The tenant below connects this to us moving into the apartment above, saying the cracks only appeared since we moved in. Apparently, the previous tenants were quieter. I really can’t imagine that two children weighing a maximum of 20 kg (44 lbs) running around could cause the plaster below to crumble? Based on my basic understanding of construction, there are always cavities in ceilings, so vibrations shouldn’t be transmitted so directly, right? Sure, if I had two overweight 15-year-olds regularly practicing martial arts indoors, I could imagine that, but with slender kindergarten children? What kind of building is it if it can’t handle that…?
The noise issue is separate, and I understand that. We are considering putting carpets in the main rooms.
Is it conceivable that running children could have such an impact? Or how else could cracks in the clay plaster below appear within just a few months? By the way, we also have cracks, but they seem normal and don’t look like the plaster is about to come down.
Thanks in advance if anyone took the time to read this!
S
Steffen8010 May 2017 09:06kaho674 schrieb:
Yes, of course. Eventually, some virus will appear that kills us all.
But that’s not really the problem, right? The real question is, is life still worth living when resources are so scarce that many go hungry? When we get on each other’s nerves so much that we end up killing each other. When rivers stink, trees are gone, the air is polluted, the weather bombards us with hurricanes and floods, and so on.The answer is simple: for a small group (those who drew the lucky birthplace), yes; for the rest, no.
Steffen80 schrieb:
The answer is simple: For a small group (those who got the big birthplace lottery), yes; for the rest, no. Well, the world is now global, and rivers and wind carry (nuclear) waste everywhere – not to mention the media! No one can hide from it anymore. Of course, some fences can be put up so that a few can keep everything a little longer while the rest get nothing. Let’s see how this develops.
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toxicmolotof10 May 2017 11:00So I understand from kaho’s words that he is building a 100% ecological, fully recyclable eco-friendly house, covering all the energy for his daily needs—from electricity to heating to water—in a carbon-neutral way, thereby relieving the world from his own environmental impact.
Or is he just trolling?
Or is he just trolling?
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HilfeHilfe10 May 2017 11:27kaho674 schrieb:
Toxic, whatever motivates you, you are off topic. This is not about killing the living, but about not conceiving the unborn. Of course, the living need to live from what is available, and those who are responsible do so as ecologically as possible.So you don't have children, I can read your frustration.
Unfortunately, the "plague"/births are not spreading fast enough in Germany. This is because people need to earn money to build nice houses. Unfortunately, the "plague" only spreads through immigration.
You are a bit strange.
HilfeHilfe schrieb:
so you are childless, you can really feel your frustration coming through...
You are a bit unusualNo, I was just not lucky. But I never really insisted on having children. What I don’t understand is, what frustration? Being childless is my smallest problem. My mother passed away from cancer two years ago. That was terrible. My supplier just canceled deliveries for this week. That’s terrible too.
Not having children is certainly unfortunate, but it can’t be changed. But honestly, are you really going to use my childlessness as an excuse for yourself and the rest of the world not to address overpopulation? Then you’re not as smart as I had hoped.
For example, my sister has a child. I love that child as if it were my own. She now has a grandchild, so I have a nephew. He is my little “prince.” I am really happy about him. But that doesn’t change the fact.