Hello forum community,
I hope it’s okay that I’m asking a question here as a tenant, because I expect a lot of expertise on the topic...
A few months ago, we moved into a rented apartment on the first floor of an old building (late 19th century, three-story brick building). The apartments were renovated 5 years ago, and the walls were plastered with clay plaster.
Now, the tenant in the apartment below us told us that recently, severe cracks have appeared in the ceiling plaster of her apartment. She also finds our children quite loud. That may be true, as they are quite lively and sometimes run around inside the apartment. However, we make sure they don’t constantly jump off chairs or similar. Additionally, all the apartments have laminate flooring (according to the landlord, with impact sound insulation), and we can clearly hear the tenants above us when they walk around, even though they tend to be quiet.
She spoke to the landlord about this, and after they inspected the damage, it seems that the entire plaster in her ceiling will need to be replaced. Of course, this is the landlord’s responsibility, but the time required is significant, especially for a single mother with two children, as she has to empty all the rooms.
The tenant below connects this to us moving into the apartment above, saying the cracks only appeared since we moved in. Apparently, the previous tenants were quieter. I really can’t imagine that two children weighing a maximum of 20 kg (44 lbs) running around could cause the plaster below to crumble? Based on my basic understanding of construction, there are always cavities in ceilings, so vibrations shouldn’t be transmitted so directly, right? Sure, if I had two overweight 15-year-olds regularly practicing martial arts indoors, I could imagine that, but with slender kindergarten children? What kind of building is it if it can’t handle that…?
The noise issue is separate, and I understand that. We are considering putting carpets in the main rooms.
Is it conceivable that running children could have such an impact? Or how else could cracks in the clay plaster below appear within just a few months? By the way, we also have cracks, but they seem normal and don’t look like the plaster is about to come down.
Thanks in advance if anyone took the time to read this!
I hope it’s okay that I’m asking a question here as a tenant, because I expect a lot of expertise on the topic...
A few months ago, we moved into a rented apartment on the first floor of an old building (late 19th century, three-story brick building). The apartments were renovated 5 years ago, and the walls were plastered with clay plaster.
Now, the tenant in the apartment below us told us that recently, severe cracks have appeared in the ceiling plaster of her apartment. She also finds our children quite loud. That may be true, as they are quite lively and sometimes run around inside the apartment. However, we make sure they don’t constantly jump off chairs or similar. Additionally, all the apartments have laminate flooring (according to the landlord, with impact sound insulation), and we can clearly hear the tenants above us when they walk around, even though they tend to be quiet.
She spoke to the landlord about this, and after they inspected the damage, it seems that the entire plaster in her ceiling will need to be replaced. Of course, this is the landlord’s responsibility, but the time required is significant, especially for a single mother with two children, as she has to empty all the rooms.
The tenant below connects this to us moving into the apartment above, saying the cracks only appeared since we moved in. Apparently, the previous tenants were quieter. I really can’t imagine that two children weighing a maximum of 20 kg (44 lbs) running around could cause the plaster below to crumble? Based on my basic understanding of construction, there are always cavities in ceilings, so vibrations shouldn’t be transmitted so directly, right? Sure, if I had two overweight 15-year-olds regularly practicing martial arts indoors, I could imagine that, but with slender kindergarten children? What kind of building is it if it can’t handle that…?
The noise issue is separate, and I understand that. We are considering putting carpets in the main rooms.
Is it conceivable that running children could have such an impact? Or how else could cracks in the clay plaster below appear within just a few months? By the way, we also have cracks, but they seem normal and don’t look like the plaster is about to come down.
Thanks in advance if anyone took the time to read this!
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Steffen8011 May 2017 08:37Bieber0815 schrieb:
This causality is incorrect.I strongly disagree with that. Of course, EVERYTHING can be traced back to human settlement!
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bierkuh8311 May 2017 08:45Steffen80 schrieb:
I completely disagree with that. Of course, EVERYTHING can be traced back to human settlement!But that’s not what is stated there... The causality is wrong when you look at what percentage of the world’s population is responsible for which share of pollution... Unfortunately, we are part of it..
HilfeHilfe schrieb:
So please stop with the remarks about pest and children. You can share that in your own circle. You’re probably too cowardly to do that.Hay wagon!
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bierkuh83 schrieb:
That’s not what it says... The causality is incorrect when you look at what percentage of the world population is responsible for what share of pollution... Unfortunately, we are part of that... What is the author trying to tell us now? That people in America, Europe, and China shouldn’t have children anymore, but those in Africa should? I’m afraid that over the years, the difference will sadly become negligible. Because if we stop exploiting Africa and polluting the air, they will start doing the same over there. In that sense, I believe that the entire species should be equally controlled. Why should I waste time sorting all that out?
Personally, I support a global one-child policy. Just for about 20 years to start with.
11ant schrieb:
Heu-wä-gel-chen ! That must be something local. Could you translate it into Saxon dialect or Standard German?
So, I would be too scared to say my opinion? Those are just homemade assumptions... Just to avoid having any arguments, I simply try to belittle the other person somehow. How boring.
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bierkuh8321 May 2017 08:26kaho674 schrieb:
What is the author trying to say here? That people in America, Europe, and China are no longer allowed to reproduce, but those in Africa still can? I’m afraid the difference will unfortunately become marginal over the years. Because if we stop exploiting Africa and polluting the air, they will start doing the same down there. In that sense, the entire species needs to be controlled equally for me. Why should I waste time sorting this out?
Personally, I support the one-child policy worldwide. Just for about 20 years to start.That is quite a simplistic conclusion, since the cause lies more in lifestyle than in the absolute number of individuals. But go ahead and continue your misanthropic approach. Have fun.