ᐅ Plot of 600 square meters with existing/old building

Created on: 16 Feb 2017 11:08
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Tinkerbell11
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Tinkerbell11
16 Feb 2017 11:08
Hello everyone,
I have the following question:
We are considering a plot of land that is affordable (like winning the lottery here in the area). On the plot, there is an old basement structure about 20 years old.
The size is 11.50 x 10.50 meters (38 x 34 feet), and the height is 2.00 meters (6.5 feet).

Now I wanted to know if it makes sense to build a house with a basement on this plot (since the excavation is already done) or if it would be better to fill it in and build a bungalow on top.
Does anyone have some cost estimates and tips?

Sunny spring greetings
From Lehre
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Bieber0815
16 Feb 2017 11:13
Do you mean an apprenticeship in Lower Saxony? Or is there also one in Saxony-Anhalt?

Filling large holes so that they are ultimately load-bearing for a house is not free of charge. I would rather prefer to build with a basement.

The question is, what can the existing basement structure still be used for?
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Tinkerbell11
16 Feb 2017 11:18
Apprenticeship in Lower Saxony ;-)
The plot is in Saxony-Anhalt.

Well, you would have to completely remove everything starting from the basement (because after 20 years, rainwater and the weather have already caused significant damage there, such as cracks in the foundation).

What do you think the cost would be for filling it back in?
You can’t just use simple soil from nearby construction sites, as it would likely settle a lot and wouldn’t have the stability required to install a concrete slab on top.
11ant16 Feb 2017 12:55
If I understand correctly, the "plot" is actually a construction shell where work stopped 20 years ago before the basement ceiling was installed?

In that case, I would consider having the basement inspected by a building surveyor, a structural engineer, and a water damage restoration specialist. The costs of demolishing a structure in an excavation pit are significant. There are entire shopping centers that were built on top of insolvency estate basements.

The external dimensions match common house designs quite well. If the basement ceiling is already in place, I would probably partially or fully remove it to avoid having the planned house layout dictated by the existing stairwell, utility room, risers, and downpipes.

You might want to post some pictures (although I’m not sure if newer members are allowed to do that here yet), so people can give a more detailed opinion.

P.S.: The original building permit or planning permission should still be traceable through the architect, who could be a candidate for continuing the planning—unless, by bad luck, they were employed by the bankrupt contractor and are no longer available.
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Tinkerbell11
16 Feb 2017 13:04
Yes, exactly. They built up a basement and then stopped because there were no more funds available (according to the building authority).
So would it be more worthwhile to leave it standing, remove some parts, and build the house on top of it?
I would need to check if I still have any photos on my phone.
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Tinkerbell11
16 Feb 2017 13:08
I have to say that the plot is about 600 square meters (approximately 6460 square feet) and the house could be moved 3 meters (approximately 10 feet) forward to create more space for a garden in the back. Somehow, everything feels a bit complicated. Does an expert usually review this for free?