Hello everyone,
Our architect pointed out that there could be a considerable cost-saving potential if we choose wooden windows instead of the originally planned wood-aluminum windows. Of course, this also depends on the number and size of the windows. It’s obviously a luxury problem. The clear advantage of wood-aluminum windows is the weather protection on the outside.
However, we could also be very comfortable with full wooden windows, but somehow there are still concerns about what might happen without the external weather protection. On the other hand, my parents have had wooden windows for more than 30 years that haven’t even been treated and have been working perfectly without any issues.
Who has experience in this area?
Our architect pointed out that there could be a considerable cost-saving potential if we choose wooden windows instead of the originally planned wood-aluminum windows. Of course, this also depends on the number and size of the windows. It’s obviously a luxury problem. The clear advantage of wood-aluminum windows is the weather protection on the outside.
However, we could also be very comfortable with full wooden windows, but somehow there are still concerns about what might happen without the external weather protection. On the other hand, my parents have had wooden windows for more than 30 years that haven’t even been treated and have been working perfectly without any issues.
Who has experience in this area?
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hampshire5 May 2020 15:48I agree with @11ant: The workmanship is more important than the material.
hampshire schrieb:
I agree with @11ant: workmanship is more important than the material.I agree with that too, but when did I say that here?https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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hampshire5 May 2020 16:4811ant schrieb:
I do agree with that, but when exactly did I say it here?Not explicitly, but I inferred it implicitly from several of your statements in this thread:11ant schrieb:
Unfortunately, you are also offered wood-aluminum windows that, without the aluminum cladding, would have weather resistance beyond any reasonable standard (but then at a price level comparable to or slightly above PVC—so cheaper than pure aluminum).11ant schrieb:
And wood-aluminum is sometimes available cheaper (about 105) — but unfortunately not due to volume discounts, rather due to lower quality. That means wood-aluminum won’t do you any favors where it is only moderately priced above PVC (list price).11ant schrieb:
Wood is actually a good material for windows, but only in hard grades. These wear down the tools faster and therefore have to be more expensive;11ant schrieb:
There are two types of suppliers: those who try to benefit from the good image of the material while targeting customers who find quality prices excessive. They then look for ways to offer attractive prices—unfortunately at the expense of quality (but as invisibly as possible). And those who uncompromisingly produce quality.I hope I haven’t read too much between the lines...hampshire schrieb:
Not explicitly, but I inferred that implicitly from several of your statements. Yes, certainly several times.
hampshire schrieb:
Here in this thread: No, not here right now. This is currently about the material. It says:
1. In cheap wood-aluminum, the wood is the kind that would tend to rot easily without the metal cladding;
2. When wood-aluminum is "affordable," it usually means this lower wood quality is behind it, unlike the PVC market mechanisms;
3. Milling tools can produce more pieces if the wood is softer – this is also a reason for using cheaper wood qualities (equally true for wood-aluminum and pure wood).
hampshire schrieb:
I hope I’m not reading too much between the lines... From my perspective, this is actually quite the opposite of what the lines imply.
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I don’t quite understand why it would be considered a problem if less hard and durable wood types are used in affordable wood-aluminum windows. The aluminum cladding protects the wood behind it from weather exposure. Even with softer wood species, wood rot shouldn’t be much of an issue, right?
Aventin schrieb:
Even with softer types of wood, wood rot shouldn’t be that much of an issue, right? If you consider the metal cladding as a protective coating, then that’s probably true. However, I also find it misleading to combine two well-regarded materials associated with a premium image and offer them at prices that, for decent quality, feel more like a rip-off, when in reality the “cheaper” price is achieved by cutting corners behind the visible surface and saving on procurement costs. High-quality wood/aluminum would not cost less but rather more than pure aluminum. But (l)egal.
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