ᐅ Smart Home Hub – Which Ones Are Compatible with EnOcean?

Created on: 4 Feb 2020 14:29
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Grantlhaua
Hello everyone,

For our new build, I decided to go with the heating system from our manufacturer (Kermi) and am currently installing Enocean components (this can’t be changed now since the parts have been at home for a long time). I actually like the Enocean protocol a lot, but after reading a bit about smart home systems and seeing many things on Instagram and Pinterest, I came across IKEA Tradfri, Philips Hue, and a Doorbird as well. We also already have a Sonos system. Now my question is how to integrate all of this seamlessly. The plan is to use a tablet as the door station to access Doorbird, which is already set up using Tasker and Fully Kiosk. But how do I now connect Sonos, Hue, and Enocean into one system?

Should I use FHEM? What alternatives are there? How can I connect my Enocean components to Alexa? KNX was never an option due to cost, but in hindsight, Homematic IP also seems quite interesting.

Thanks!

Regards
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Grantlhaua
5 Feb 2020 09:56
I can sketch it out for you today. Actually, I just want to enhance the existing system a bit and connect my EnOcean components with Hue.
Mycraft5 Feb 2020 10:08
Yes, just a little bit here and a little bit there—that’s exactly the problem you’re facing now.

You can’t be “a little bit pregnant.”

Write down everything you want and describe the current situation. Then you can consider how to approach the whole project.

That’s why I always recommend thinking everything through carefully before construction. Any changes made afterwards usually require a lot of workarounds and end up being inefficient at best. Often after a few years, they don’t work at all, leaving you with a pile of electronic waste.
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Grantlhaua
5 Feb 2020 10:14
Mycraft schrieb:

Yes, just a little bit here and a little bit there—that's exactly the problem you're having now.

It works fine so far; now it's just about integrating Hue, Doorbird, and Enocean, or figuring out the best way to connect Hue. Should I connect it via the existing GU10 spotlights or use actuators instead?
Mycraft5 Feb 2020 10:19
Well, from what you’ve written, it seems that nothing is working. But maybe (or rather, almost certainly) we have different ideas about what a smart home is.
untergasse435 Feb 2020 10:56
For your (nonexistent) planning, you need a gateway for each of your gadget types, meaning something for Hue/Ikea/Zigbee, something else for EnOcean, and then software for Sonos, Doorbird, or whatever else you have in mind. That leaves you only with some free broker software like FHEM, ioBroker, openHAB, or similar, which then runs on a Raspberry Pi or similar DIY hardware, because it shouldn’t cost anything. EnOcean and Hue are fundamentally different wireless systems and not easily integrated.

From a quick glance, you could get quite far with a pure EnOcean system, including the Kermi derivative, if necessary. It would be simpler if you stuck to just one system since the whole topic can be affordable. It only gets complicated when you mix things together without a clear plan.

To add something useful: you might want to check out homee or WiButler if you want to work with EnOcean as the main system.
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Grantlhaua
5 Feb 2020 11:55
untergasse43 schrieb:

To add something after all: you could take a look at homee or WiButler if you want to work with EnOcean as the top-level system.

I’ve already looked into them. Kermi recently joined the WiButler Alliance as well. Somehow it just looks a bit awkward. I’ve also seen homee; I actually like the idea quite a bit, but it doesn’t seem open enough for the visualization to me.

It’s not really expensive overall. So far, I only had to buy the Hue Bridge, and I can just about swallow the 30€ (about $32) for that...