ᐅ The situation in the real estate market... unbelievable

Created on: 12 Nov 2019 18:29
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Reinhard84.2
Hello everyone,

We are currently looking for a property in the Lower Rhine region, which is not a particularly sought-after area, but unfortunately, the prices are not any better than in eastern Germany. When calling several real estate agents, they mentioned up to 50 viewings scheduled for one property. This was for a standard semi-detached house with a somewhat larger plot. I get the impression that as soon as a house has a garden bigger than a chicken coop, the interest is incredible.

Of course, the municipalities are not designating any new building land, as that would spoil the surroundings… (to what extent that is still possible is left to their imagination). This naturally has the convenient side effect that existing building plots and older properties are insanely expensive.

You can probably wait half a lifetime for the supposed recession, falling prices, and available properties. It’s all frustrating and a real pity.

Thanks for listening.
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Scout
14 Nov 2019 15:20
Have you spent the last 20 years in a monastery? Police reports from Duisburg show that every third report involves robbery or knife attacks. There are 10,000 crimes per 100,000 inhabitants.

In Fürth, Bavaria, there are 4,800 per 100,000 inhabitants. Police reports indicate that about every eighth report involves robbery or knife attacks. I find this difference dramatic.

Over 77,000 of nearly 500,000 people in Duisburg receive social welfare benefits. Statistically, one in three children is affected by poverty. "Mugging" thus quickly becomes a common occurrence. According to the police, there are at least 70 criminal clans with around 2,800 members.

Also, look up the Spiegel-TV report "schrottimmobilien in Duisburg."

Do you have children?
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hampshire
14 Nov 2019 15:29
Duisburg has a much better reputation than it is given credit for – it just suffers from a certain stigma. However, I wouldn’t want to move to the neighborhoods of Marxloh or Rheinhausen myself.

The fact that there are more expensive or cheaper areas doesn’t really help the original poster. I would suggest looking around the triangle between Kempen, Geldern, and Kamp-Lintfort, which seems quite attractive in terms of price level, nature, and social environment.

Commuting distances in the region can be quite long even if they are only a few kilometers. I know this from experience as a former Kaarst resident.
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nordanney
14 Nov 2019 15:48
Scout schrieb:

Have you spent the last 20 years in a monastery? Duisburg police reports: every third report involves robbery or stabbings. With 10,000 crimes per 100,000 inhabitants.

Do you know anything about Duisburg? Millionaires live there in upscale neighborhoods as well as the losers of society and many migrants. It’s like any big city—there are nice and less nice areas. I lived in Rheinhausen for 8 years and never had any problems; I even consider myself part of the upper class.

By the way, in Munich in 2018 there were almost 7,000 crimes per 100,000 inhabitants. I wouldn’t want to move to such an unlivable and violent city either. Not an option at all. In Berlin and Frankfurt, the numbers are about twice as high. Definitely out of the question. I’d rather live in peaceful Duisburg than in the war zones of Frankfurt or Berlin. *Irony off*
kaho67414 Nov 2019 16:21
Scout schrieb:

Have you spent the last 20 years in a monastery?

Uh, are you talking to me? I asked a serious question. I live here in beautiful Saxony, far away from
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robberies or stabbings

as well as from
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77,000 people

who
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receive social welfare benefits.

Never heard of Rheinhausen—it’s just a small place.
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Do you have children?

No. Is that necessary to know Rheinhausen? Then that’s cleared up.
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Scout
14 Nov 2019 16:27
Rheinhausen is a district of Duisburg. Criminal clans, mobile minorities from the Northeastern Balkans, and poverty on the streets. Partially deteriorating neighborhoods – something like a Rhineland Mogadishu. I don’t think anyone in Saxony knows about such conditions.

Those who have other options certainly don’t raise their children there.
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Fummelbrett!
14 Nov 2019 16:30
Two friends live in Duisburg; unfortunately, I don’t know the exact district, but they report nothing good. By now, whenever possible, they no longer leave the house after dark. I’m not familiar with anything like that here in safe Middle Franconia. Well, around the turn of the millennium I lived in Munich, and some of the things I did at night back then, I wouldn’t dare to do anymore now.