ᐅ Setting Up Gas Condensing Boiler Junkers Cerapurmodul ZBS 14

Created on: 4 Feb 2019 21:32
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Goldi09111
Hello everyone,

we need your help or advice again. After living in the house for about 2 months and starting to familiarize myself with the heating system, I noticed that the boiler cycles very frequently, and I can’t really get it under control.

A brief overview of the conditions: we have about 150m2 (1,615 ft2) heated by underfloor heating connected to a "Junkers Cerapurmodul zbs 14/100 s3 ma 23" boiler.

I have set the base point at 27°C (81°F) and the return point at 46°C (115°F). The thermostat in the living room is set to level 4 out of 6, and the temperature is around 21°C (70°F)—not overly warm, but comfortably cozy (occasionally we use the fireplace).

Now, regarding the issue: we have about 100 to 150 burner starts per day. I’ve read from others that they only have about 5 to 10. What could be wrong here? By the way, we have experienced outdoor temperatures ranging from +5°C to -10°C (41°F to 14°F) in the last 4 weeks.

Bosch Heizungsregler mit Display zeigt 23°C Vorlauftemperatur und Bedienelemente


Bosch-Thermostat mit Display: Temperatureinstellungen, Heizen 19.5°C, Absenken 17.0°C


Bosch Heizungsregler mit Display: Systeminformationen, Brennerstarts, Laufzeit, Codes.


Bosch Heizungssteuerung mit Display und Zeitprogramm


Bosch-Display mit Temperatureinstellungen: Warmwasser 60°C, Warmwasser reduziert 45°C.


Bosch Heizungsregler mit Display zeigt Zeitschaltplan für Warmwasser (Mo-Fr, 05:00–23:00).


Bosch Heizungsregler Display zeigt Anlagendaten, Min.-Außentemperatur -15°C.


Bosch Heizungsregler mit Display und Menü 'Heizkurve einstellen' - Endpunkt 46°C, Fußpunkt 27°C.
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Nordlys
5 Feb 2019 09:36
The button in the upper left corner is for Auto.
Mycraft5 Feb 2019 09:37
I just checked, for your controller it’s enough to remove the setback, then it will operate in automatic mode. The underfloor heating mode is disabled, so you’ll need to experiment with the footpoint/endpoint settings.
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Obstlerbaum
5 Feb 2019 09:41
Take a look at the actual supply temperature the heating system is receiving. Besides the high storage temperature, this can also cause frequent cycling. How much hysteresis do you allow for the hot water tank before reheating starts?
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Goldi09111
6 Feb 2019 06:59
Obstlerbaum schrieb:
Take a look at the actual flow temperature the heating system is receiving. Besides the high storage temperature, this can also cause frequent cycling. How much hysteresis do you allow for the hot water tank before reheating starts?

Where can I find these two pieces of information?
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Obstlerbaum
7 Feb 2019 18:02
Goldi09111 schrieb:
Where can I find the two pieces of information?

There should actually be thermometers on the supply and return pipes.
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Goldi09111
7 Feb 2019 20:37
Obstlerbaum schrieb:
There should actually be thermometers on the supply and return pipes.

There are no thermometers on the pipes (see pictures).

I adjusted the heating temperature from 19.5 to 20.5°C (67.1 to 68.9°F) and set the heating curve endpoint from 44 to 42°C (111.2 to 107.6°F) and the base point from 27 to 24°C (80.6 to 75.2°F).

Additionally, I set the heating times back to 4:00 AM – 8:00 PM. After switching to continuous operation on Monday evening, the heating cycles increased from about 100 per day to 200.

I stood next to the heating system for a few minutes just now, and it turns on and then shuts off again after about 10 seconds—completely pointless.

Is the last image with the pump post-run time of 6 minutes okay?

Thank you all so much!

Interior view of a boiler room with pipes, valves, and damaged insulated pipe.


Insulated pipework with shut-off valve, pump (Grundfos), and fittings in the heating cellar.


Heating manifold with insulated pipes, multiple shut-off valves, and copper piping.


Bosch heating controller with display: Heating 20.5°C, setback 17.0°C.


Bosch heating controller display: menu 'Set heating curve', endpoint 42°C, base point 24°C, max 45°C.


Bosch boiler control: display with boiler data, pump post-run time 6 min; left auto/man/fav, 24.