ᐅ Is a 30 cm ThermoPlan S9 brick wall sufficient?

Created on: 19 Aug 2019 14:39
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matze007
Hello everyone,

we are currently defining the technical details for our single-family house.

One question has come up regarding the type of brick used. According to the construction specifications, our builder will use the ThermoPlan S9 brick with a thickness of 30cm (12 inches) for the exterior walls. The construction will comply with the energy-saving regulations.

Do you consider this brick sufficient in terms of its insulation and soundproofing properties, among others?

I could consider upgrading to
  • the 36.5cm (14.5 inches) brick (also type S9) without insulation
  • the 30cm (12 inches) brick (type MZ65) with insulation

However, my builder advises against this due to the long payback period.

I am now somewhat uncertain about the practicality of my plan and look forward to your feedback.

Thanks & best regards,
matze007
face2625 Aug 2019 16:46
guckuck2 schrieb:

A matter of mindset

Whether it’s a matter of mindset or gut feeling is more a question of linguistic style than meaning.
guckuck2 schrieb:

Trivial stuff that wouldn’t pay off, although that really depends, and also on future energy prices. The cheapest kilowatt-hour is the one you don’t need at all. Back in the 1960s, Grandma living in a house from that time wouldn’t have imagined spending 250€ per month on heating oil.

Exactly, that’s why I said it mostly depends on personal attitude.
guckuck2 schrieb:

But these are timeframes you simply can’t predict.

On the contrary, you can only speculate! Anyone who doesn’t speculate at all will always decide against the investment. Someone who bets on sharply rising energy prices and feels more comfortable knowing the impact will be smaller might invest a bit more now, for example in better insulation values.

But again… you won’t freeze without the additional investment.

P.S.:
dertill schrieb:

The heating system itself doesn’t get more expensive for that reason; it’s usually oversized anyway. The supply temperature and the annual performance factor can be influenced much more by system design and heating circuit planning.

Unfortunately, this isn’t always so simple for a layperson. On top of that, you either have to rely on the specified HVAC contractor (main contractor, prefabricated house) or find one first who is not strictly pro-energy recovery ventilation, buffer tank, and bypass valve.