ᐅ Is it acceptable to have a bend in a copper gas pipe?

Created on: 29 Jun 2020 21:14
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Detlev69
Quick question for the master plumbers here:

The gas supply line from the house connection to the heating system has just been installed on the unfinished floor, so it will soon be covered by the screed. It is about a 25 mm (1 inch) copper pipe with a plastic coating.

At one 90° bend, the copper pipe has slightly narrowed, while all other bends are smoothly curved without any constriction. I would describe the narrowing as a kink, and you can feel that it is no longer perfectly round on the outside but flattened. See photo.

I pointed this out to the installer, but he said everything is fine and there is no problem.

Is this still compliant with standards and safely installed as is, or should it be replaced?

Weißes, gebogenes PVC-Rohr liegt auf staubigem Boden neben Styropor-Brocken.
Knöpfchen30 Jun 2020 08:16
When performing such tasks, I always install a protective conduit along the entire length before laying anything. This way, bending or kinking is virtually impossible. Somehow, it helps me sleep better.
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Joedreck
30 Jun 2020 08:59
Knöpfchen schrieb:

The bend was probably even more severe during installation; once it is bent back it can no longer return to its original shape, resulting in such deformations. If wrinkles form, that is essentially the end of it.
Repairing a Wicuro pipe for a gas line without subsequently installing a continuous protective conduit along the entire length is not allowed.
Since the gas pipe is located inside a “cavity,”
it must be ensured that in the event of a gas leak, the gas cannot accumulate in cavities. This is a regulation.
For example, if a coupling or bend was installed,
this interrupts the insulation, which in the case of gas lines is the protective sheath. Wrapping something around it won’t help.
The only option is a complete replacement.

That is probably the reason why he does not want to do it.
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Detlev69
30 Jun 2020 09:21
Joedreck schrieb:

What the reason might be that he does not want to do it.
Yes, that’s probably the case. He would need to replace it completely, and from what I understand, this was already his second attempt. At least there was another bent pipe of similar length in his vehicle… frustrating for him.

What am I supposed to do? If he says it’s fine like that and doesn’t want to change it. He is the master tradesman?! It is difficult for laypersons and clients when subcontractors are hired independently.
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Pierre
30 Jun 2020 10:02
Detlev69 schrieb:

If he says it's fine like that and doesn't want to make changes.
However, he doesn’t have to sleep in the house himself.

I would ask him to make a replacement, and if he refuses again, threaten to have an independent expert inspect and assess the situation.

Check out the Association of Private Homeowners—they can also assist you. Of course, this kind of service always costs money, but it also provides security.
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guckuck2
30 Jun 2020 12:41
Detlev69 schrieb:

It is difficult for laypersons and homeowners when subcontractors are hired independently.

What does the site manager say?
11ant30 Jun 2020 13:34
Detlev69 schrieb:

What am I supposed to do? If he says it’s fine as it is and doesn’t want to change it. He’s the master?!
If the witnesses swear it, he was a master once. People can say a lot, including big words like "still within the standard" or the almost Old Testament killer phrase "we’ve always done it this way." That’s why you shouldn’t judge his answer to your verbal question, but rather his response to your photo documentation sent by registered mail with return receipt.
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