ᐅ Blind Control System for New Construction (Multiple Units per Switch Box)
Created on: 5 Jul 2018 22:04
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molchi
Hello and good evening!
I am currently planning the electrical installation for our new build. Initially, we did not plan to install any smart home/KNX system.
However, I am now facing an issue due to limited space for the switch layout in the living room. At the living room entrance (kitchen, dining area, and sofa area), the controls for lighting, heating, and blinds all need to be combined on a narrow wall. I would prefer not to have two vertical switch frames side by side, either with four or five switches each.
In total, there are 5 roller shutter units, 1 heating control, and at least 4 lighting circuits to manage. Additionally, there might be some switched power outlets.
The electrical installation in the house will be executed as a star wiring system.
Does anyone have any suggestions for a solution?
Best regards from northern Germany,
Thomas
I am currently planning the electrical installation for our new build. Initially, we did not plan to install any smart home/KNX system.
However, I am now facing an issue due to limited space for the switch layout in the living room. At the living room entrance (kitchen, dining area, and sofa area), the controls for lighting, heating, and blinds all need to be combined on a narrow wall. I would prefer not to have two vertical switch frames side by side, either with four or five switches each.
In total, there are 5 roller shutter units, 1 heating control, and at least 4 lighting circuits to manage. Additionally, there might be some switched power outlets.
The electrical installation in the house will be executed as a star wiring system.
Does anyone have any suggestions for a solution?
Best regards from northern Germany,
Thomas
Thank you, thank you!
I've really gotten interested in this!
Are there any other advantages to ring wiring (e.g., ring in the basement, ring on the ground floor, ring on the upper floor, ring outside) besides slightly lower cable usage and, when tapping into the cable (since the ring starts and ends at the distribution board), being able to use the other end of the ring cable?
I always wire the power cables in a star configuration...
Do I also need to install a separate network cable, or can I use the other two wires within the KNX cable?
...and do I still need to lay an NYM cable to the control units (switches, etc.) just to be safe?
Which manufacturer would you recommend?
So much I’ve already learned today!! Great!
I've really gotten interested in this!
Are there any other advantages to ring wiring (e.g., ring in the basement, ring on the ground floor, ring on the upper floor, ring outside) besides slightly lower cable usage and, when tapping into the cable (since the ring starts and ends at the distribution board), being able to use the other end of the ring cable?
I always wire the power cables in a star configuration...
Do I also need to install a separate network cable, or can I use the other two wires within the KNX cable?
...and do I still need to lay an NYM cable to the control units (switches, etc.) just to be safe?
Which manufacturer would you recommend?
So much I’ve already learned today!! Great!
Well, an open ring combined with a tree structure is the simplest way to reach every location using the same cable (excluding ceiling outlets).
As you mentioned yourself, the power consumption is lower, and you have two ends in case something happens to the ring. One end always needs to be left open.
There are no other advantages.
A network cable for LAN is, of course, necessary since that has absolutely nothing to do with KNX. Although both can be connected, they are two different things.
The other two pairs are for additional power supply to the KNX devices or as a backup in case you need to tap into the cable twice.
You won’t need NYM cable behind the switches anymore.
It’s hard to recommend a specific manufacturer. Just buy what you like and what has the necessary functions. That’s another advantage of the system—you simply combine whatever you want, and everything is compatible with each other.
As you mentioned yourself, the power consumption is lower, and you have two ends in case something happens to the ring. One end always needs to be left open.
There are no other advantages.
A network cable for LAN is, of course, necessary since that has absolutely nothing to do with KNX. Although both can be connected, they are two different things.
The other two pairs are for additional power supply to the KNX devices or as a backup in case you need to tap into the cable twice.
You won’t need NYM cable behind the switches anymore.
It’s hard to recommend a specific manufacturer. Just buy what you like and what has the necessary functions. That’s another advantage of the system—you simply combine whatever you want, and everything is compatible with each other.
molchi schrieb:
...and do I still need to run an NYM cable to the switching units (push buttons, etc.) just to be safe? I would say it depends on how the distribution between less tech-savvy users and enthusiasts is in your household. Some people (who are otherwise very nice) feel more comfortable if switches directly control just one group of devices for on/off or up/down. Dimming by double-click isn’t everyone’s preference. So, if in doubt, I would provide the analog users with corresponding traditional control elements in parallel.
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That would only be the case if the DAU uses all the control functions. Usually, the DAU only uses the basics (lighting) and leaves the extras (gate control, parking heater) to the nerd alone.
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