ᐅ Two different tables – structural engineering?

Created on: 4 Dec 2013 22:11
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CheckieChan
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CheckieChan
4 Dec 2013 22:11
Hello

Both tables refer to the same product (solid wood ceiling).
Why are there these differences?

Thank you and best regards

Technical table for maximum span and deflection verification with load values


Table for preliminary sizing of walkable floor slabs with load specifications
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BratacDD
4 Dec 2013 22:20
If I understand correctly, the first table is based on the current Eurocode, and the second one follows DIN 1052, which has been replaced by the Eurocode.
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CheckieChan
4 Dec 2013 23:15
How does such a large difference come about?
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BratacDD
5 Dec 2013 00:19
The spans are almost the same. You should note that the table according to the Eurocode distinguishes between permanent and imposed loads. If you have a permanent load of 0.5 kN/m² and an imposed load of 2 kN/m², the span from the other table with a load of q = 2.5 kN/m² is almost identical.
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friedrich27
6 Dec 2013 18:18
no, example

Table 1 walkable floor slabs:
- permanent load (screed) 1.5 kN
- live load in category A 2.0 kN
combined total 3.5 kN
maximum span for 12 cm (5 inches) slab
3.8 meters (12.5 feet)

Table 2 3.5 kN
maximum span for 12 cm (5 inches) slab
4.9 meters (16 feet)

In the first table, which is the normal case for you, a distinction is made between static and dynamic loads, self-weight is included, and especially the vibration check is considered.
The second table only addresses deflection, and I’m not sure whether self-weight is included there.
A slab like that may support the load and possibly meet deflection requirements, but if the glasses in the cupboard rattle, that is not very pleasant.

Conclusion: for you as a home builder, only Table 1 is relevant.

By the way, greetings to Allrounder in MOL if you read this. Just can’t resist when something like this comes up.
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friedrich27
7 Dec 2013 06:43
Addition: I am referring here to an apartment ceiling; it is somewhat different with a roof ceiling, as vibration is not relevant there.
What do you see as the purpose of this type of solid wood ceiling?
Best regards