ᐅ Settlement of self-generated electricity for underfloor heating

I immediately thought of a gross rent as well. Why not?
You can calculate the heating value per square meter and set an attractive rent. It should create a win-win situation for both tenant and landlord.
As the benefactor says, "Go ahead, I have enough for the two of us."

i_b_n_a_n schrieb:

I do that too. But in the simple version 😉. I just charge gross rent (flat rate) including hot water, heating, and electricity.

i_b_n_a_n schrieb:

If I had the impression that the tenants were excessively wasteful, I would want to react in another way.

This concerns a secondary apartment: in that case, you have a different, more direct relationship with the tenant compared to a tenant living 20km (12 miles) away in an apartment building.

SaniererNRW123 schrieb:

But then you run the risk that the additional costs will increase significantly and you won’t be allowed to adjust the rent. Also, the tenant’s incentive to save is lost.

And if the limit is exceeded? Then you’re out of luck...

A flat rate is always a double-edged sword.

He must have considered his approach (which I actually like) several times as a landlord. Or does he need your business expertise? I always find posts like this "great." The main thing is just to vent here again...

SaniererNRW123 schrieb:

Flat rates in plural? Penalties for exceeding limits? So no flat rent and no flat utility costs either 🙄

Why not just implement a rent increase? You probably know the electricity consumption of the tenants’ underfloor heating from the grid or could install a meter. You cover the "rest" through a higher base rent.

Yes, plural. Flat rates once for cold water and once for electricity (regardless of whether it’s for heat pump/heating, hot water, or household electricity).
It’s still flat, within the generous limits that I can cover with the rent. Great for the tenant since they don’t have to worry about additional payments. For me, it’s simple and financially it still works well (luckily, I don’t have to watch every last dollar, which wouldn’t be enjoyable in real life either ;-)

Eventually, I will have to compensate for inflation and the resulting loss of purchasing power with a moderate increase.
But since the monthly installments effectively decrease because of that, it won’t be much. Only the small difference that I can’t offset with higher income. And if the difference stays within limits, I won’t increase rents either—it’s too much "effort" for me ;-)

Hausbau55EE schrieb:

His approach (which I actually like) should definitely serve him well as a landlord.

I don’t understand this sentence.

Hausbau55EE schrieb:

Or does he need your commercial expertise? I always find posts like this “great.” The main thing is to just throw something in here again...

No, he doesn’t need my commercial expertise. I am sure @i_b_n_a_n has that covered. I just wanted to contribute something from a legal perspective. Because he hasn’t agreed on a classic flat rent or flat service charges. There are many pitfalls with those. The way he does it, it’s manageable—but it’s very different from the traditional flat-rate agreements and their associated pitfalls.

It should also be noted that I have been a fully qualified merchant (legally) for over 26 years ;-)

We were aware of the possible pitfalls (my brother rents out properties in the same way). However, we accept the small risk for the benefits of this win-win situation.

i_b_n_a_n schrieb:

It should be noted that I have been a fully licensed merchant (legally) for over 26 years ;-)

We were aware of the possible pitfalls (my brother rents out properties in the same way). But we accept the small risk for the benefits of this win-win situation.

So hopefully the legal advice was helpful to you???