ᐅ How harmful to health is parquet adhesive when used with underfloor heating?
Created on: 1 May 2022 12:39
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hansmuff
Hello,
this summer we are starting the construction of a semi-detached house and are currently deciding on the flooring. We have chosen to install tiles throughout almost the entire house, as they are considered the best option for heat transfer with underfloor heating. The exception will be our living/dining area, as we find tiles too cold for this 70 m² (750 sq ft) space and prefer wood for its warmer feel. For this reason, we have decided on solid oak parquet, which will be fully glued down using a parquet adhesive with a weight of 80 kg (176 lbs). I know that parquet is not the ideal choice for underfloor heating but it is still feasible.
While researching online, I came across some articles claiming that parquet adhesives can be toxic, which has left me a bit concerned. Could this issue be worsened by the underfloor heating warming up? Will the adhesive off-gas and release “toxic fumes” into the room? Or are modern parquet adhesives generally safe? I have read about the EC1 and EC1 Plus standards. Does choosing an adhesive with such certification ensure safety?
I would appreciate a brief assessment.
Best regards,
hansmuff
this summer we are starting the construction of a semi-detached house and are currently deciding on the flooring. We have chosen to install tiles throughout almost the entire house, as they are considered the best option for heat transfer with underfloor heating. The exception will be our living/dining area, as we find tiles too cold for this 70 m² (750 sq ft) space and prefer wood for its warmer feel. For this reason, we have decided on solid oak parquet, which will be fully glued down using a parquet adhesive with a weight of 80 kg (176 lbs). I know that parquet is not the ideal choice for underfloor heating but it is still feasible.
While researching online, I came across some articles claiming that parquet adhesives can be toxic, which has left me a bit concerned. Could this issue be worsened by the underfloor heating warming up? Will the adhesive off-gas and release “toxic fumes” into the room? Or are modern parquet adhesives generally safe? I have read about the EC1 and EC1 Plus standards. Does choosing an adhesive with such certification ensure safety?
I would appreciate a brief assessment.
Best regards,
hansmuff
Baufritz advertises that their own parquet adhesive contains no plasticizers at all. However, it is not available for purchase separately (only with the house).
The thing is, Baufritz probably does not mix the adhesive themselves. With some research, it might be possible to find out which manufacturer supplies it.
Alternatively, on the website of the "Blue Angel" eco-label, you can find some products, for example from Bostik or Mapei, that are labeled as "free of plasticizing ingredients." For instance, "Bostik WOOD H770 ECO PREMIUM."
Whether these are any good, I cannot say. 🙂
The thing is, Baufritz probably does not mix the adhesive themselves. With some research, it might be possible to find out which manufacturer supplies it.
Alternatively, on the website of the "Blue Angel" eco-label, you can find some products, for example from Bostik or Mapei, that are labeled as "free of plasticizing ingredients." For instance, "Bostik WOOD H770 ECO PREMIUM."
Whether these are any good, I cannot say. 🙂
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Benutzer2002 May 2022 14:20Solvent-free and plasticizer-free options are available from various manufacturers.
I have been using adhesives from Bona for years – a solvent-free variant with the Emicode EC1 PLUS label. This label is awarded to products that operate at the technical limit of what is possible ==> very low emissions.
I have been using adhesives from Bona for years – a solvent-free variant with the Emicode EC1 PLUS label. This label is awarded to products that operate at the technical limit of what is possible ==> very low emissions.
The Blue Angel label is, in my opinion, considered about as reputable as foundations that test products (which means not really, due to purchased or limited evaluations).
In some areas, Germany allows limit values that would be unthinkable in other countries. I can’t quite recall the details anymore, but formaldehyde might have been one of them.
Also, titanium dioxide has only recently been added to the (suspected) list of carcinogenic substances in Germany. It is present in every paint with the white cat logo or other paints, while it has long been banned in other countries as well.
It’s a complicated subject and can drive you quite crazy...
In some areas, Germany allows limit values that would be unthinkable in other countries. I can’t quite recall the details anymore, but formaldehyde might have been one of them.
Also, titanium dioxide has only recently been added to the (suspected) list of carcinogenic substances in Germany. It is present in every paint with the white cat logo or other paints, while it has long been banned in other countries as well.
It’s a complicated subject and can drive you quite crazy...
No sources or hearsay, so I changed the above.
But, for example, with dog food, the dilemma is this: Yes, the tests were accurate in that the packaging and ingredients were examined, and the ingredients listed were actually present—full marks for that. However, no one investigated whether these ingredients are healthy for the animals. As a result, uninformed dog owners buy from discount stores because "it’s the test winner from the foundation," yet they end up feeding their dogs more or less grain filler with meat flavor.
But, for example, with dog food, the dilemma is this: Yes, the tests were accurate in that the packaging and ingredients were examined, and the ingredients listed were actually present—full marks for that. However, no one investigated whether these ingredients are healthy for the animals. As a result, uninformed dog owners buy from discount stores because "it’s the test winner from the foundation," yet they end up feeding their dogs more or less grain filler with meat flavor.
Tamstar schrieb:
like Stiftung, the organization that tests products (meaning not at all, because bought/biased evaluation)?filosof schrieb:
I wasn’t aware that Stiftung Warentest is “bought.” Do you have any sources for this claim?As someone who works for a company whose products are regularly tested by Stiftung, I can say that the test results are not purchased. To my knowledge, it is not directly influenced by the company whose product is tested, nor do they send specially prepared test samples. The products are ordered in the usual way.
What is purchased is the license to use the test seal for advertising purposes.
The significance of the test results and the test methods may be questionable depending on the product, but that is another issue.