Hello everyone,
now I really need your help. And please try to avoid abbreviations in your answers. I’m still a bit inexperienced in this area. 😱
Problem: We have found a plot of land through a sales agent/broker who only sells it tied to a specific developer. The developer doesn’t seem to be bad. We haven’t heard anything negative about them so far in this region. They apparently have never been involved in court cases related to construction defects or similar issues. Well, the problem is that we get the feeling they do everything with a very basic, standard approach. They don’t seem to consider the individual needs of the builder. So far, we have only spoken with the broker, who offers a fixed price for a turnkey house. It’s a great KfW 70 house with a heat pump, triple glazing, rendered facade, and more... As soon as I mentioned that we want a fireplace and brick facade instead of rendering, it was dismissed immediately... because it costs more, doesn’t make sense, and is just nonsense… blah, blah, blah...
Question: Is this some kind of common tactic? What is their problem? What would be the best way to negotiate with them to get the most effective and economical outcome from the entire building project?
now I really need your help. And please try to avoid abbreviations in your answers. I’m still a bit inexperienced in this area. 😱
Problem: We have found a plot of land through a sales agent/broker who only sells it tied to a specific developer. The developer doesn’t seem to be bad. We haven’t heard anything negative about them so far in this region. They apparently have never been involved in court cases related to construction defects or similar issues. Well, the problem is that we get the feeling they do everything with a very basic, standard approach. They don’t seem to consider the individual needs of the builder. So far, we have only spoken with the broker, who offers a fixed price for a turnkey house. It’s a great KfW 70 house with a heat pump, triple glazing, rendered facade, and more... As soon as I mentioned that we want a fireplace and brick facade instead of rendering, it was dismissed immediately... because it costs more, doesn’t make sense, and is just nonsense… blah, blah, blah...
Question: Is this some kind of common tactic? What is their problem? What would be the best way to negotiate with them to get the most effective and economical outcome from the entire building project?
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Doc.Schnaggls15 Jan 2014 14:58Bauexperte schrieb:
Just to make sure I understand correctly. You are willing to sign the contract for work, which you consider to have defects, but you already want to know how to get out of the contract later with as little effort as possible?@Bauexperte: I rather assume that the original poster basically wants to build with the developer but is asking how to best incorporate their special requests (fireplace, brickwork, etc.). Regards, Dirk
Bauexperte schrieb:
That won’t help you, since you clearly obtained knowledge of the property through the real estate agent and you can only get it in connection with a construction contract. The tax office is not stupid 😉Exactly! Here in NRW, you receive a four-page questionnaire at home just a few days after the notarized contract signing, which must be completed and returned along with additional documents. Among other things, *all* offers ever obtained for the development of the property must be attached. The tax office really digs deep. 🙁
Good luck
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Bauexperte15 Jan 2014 15:10Hello,
Inside the house, all walls are in place; from the stair builder trade onward, you have to tender, award, and commission all further necessary trades yourself.
Regards, Bauexperte
Kisska86 schrieb:Bricklayer trade, carpenter trade, roofer trade, window trade including front entrance door, as well as exterior plaster or cladding.
If you now tell me what is meant by a finished shell?
Inside the house, all walls are in place; from the stair builder trade onward, you have to tender, award, and commission all further necessary trades yourself.
Regards, Bauexperte
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HilfeHilfe15 Jan 2014 15:14I doubt that the developer will allow so many trades to be removed and subcontracted to others. That would also cut into their profit margin. We had a similar case with a plot and developer and were able to include many special requests for an additional fee. And yes, tax was due on the entire purchase. The problem is that when the developer exclusively builds on the land, you don’t have any options—it’s take it or leave it. I can imagine that they can find the “right” type of customer.
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